Mathieu Bridon píše v St 26. 02. 2014 v 21:37 +0800: > On Wed, 2014-02-26 at 14:25 +0100, Jiri Eischmann wrote: > > But what really worries me is a much higher number of users > > with broken package databases or even whole systems asking for help on > > forums. When we got down to the problem we found out the user > > interrupted offline updates (they took too long, or they even got stuck > > and they didn't even know the system was being updated). > > > > The offline updates as they are done now seem to be confusing to them. > > I see more and more often advices from experienced users such as "if you > > want reliable updates, use yum update" which is probably not the kind of > > solution we want for workstation users. > > > > I know we're not switching back to online updates, but we might want to > > reassess how they're done now. Maybe making more obvious that the system > > is being updated and the process is not yet over, or excluding packages > > that really don't need offline update so that the update time is much > > shorter? > > One problem was that the offline updates were extremely long. IIRC > Richard already fixed some issues with that, and switching to Hawkey > would make it even better. > > Another problem is that there used to be no indication at all that an > update was being performed. There now is something in the top-left > corner of the boot screen. > > Did those bad experience you mention happen before this was added? >From what I've been able to find on forums now they were using F19. So if it's at least partly fixed in F20, good for us. Jiri -- desktop mailing list desktop@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop