On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 2:27 PM, Bruno Wolff III <bruno@xxxxxxxx> wrote: > On Mon, Jun 06, 2011 at 11:08:10 +0000, > Â"\"JÃhann B. GuÃmundsson\"" <johannbg@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> I think it's time for the Gnome desktop team to revisit and review which >> services are enabled by default on the livecd/usb and enable only those >> that benefit the novice desktop end user. >> >> Alot of services are enabled by default that are aimed at enterprise >> users and to some extend enterprise hardware usages which would never be >> used on a regular desktop/tablet/notebook pc like for example fcoe, >> lldpad, iscsi, iscsid, mdmonitor etc. which administrators should enable >> encase they use it in their enterprise environment. >> >> A bit of discussion about this is happening in bug 707553 > > For some of these, the issue is more about detecting the attached hardware > and only enabling the services on install that are actually usable. > When running as a live image, those services should be enabled so that > they can use the hardware if it is present. > -- > desktop mailing list > desktop@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop > Live media does not make sense for servers at all. When you install a server, you want to control exactly what is going to be installed, which is impossible with live media. Furthermore, the default live media is the Desktop spin, which means - it is for desktop! not servers! You can suggest a server spin if you want. Most desktop users are not enterprise users, and enterprise users are skilled enough to enable the services they need themselves or create their own live media with the packages and configurations they need for their environment. I don't see any reason for starting these services. AFAIK the system will boot properly without them on any hardware, so users who has such hardware can simply run su -c 'systemctl start something.service', and that's it. What I mean is, that those services can be *installed* by default on the live cd, but I see no reason for them to be *enabled* by default on the live media or on an installation from the livecd. -- -Elad. -- desktop mailing list desktop@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop
