Had noticed that pcscd failed to start after a default test installation.. Digging into it further revealed # pcscd -f 00000000 hotplug_libhal.c:584:HPRegisterForHotplugEvents() Couldn't obtain list of devices 00000037 pcscdaemon.c:601:main() HPRegisterForHotplugEvents failed so it turnes out it needs hal which we don't install by default and hal is hal not being deprecated? Does anyone have any information on what the future has pcsc-lite and should it not be removed from Gnome installs? JBG -- desktop mailing list desktop@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop