--- Jesse Keating <jkeating@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On 1/15/11 8:28 AM, 夜神 岩男 wrote: > > Ridiculing Fedora for not having an office suite > on the > > LiveCD is still a pretty consistent theme, and it > is a > > logical one -- most non-technical users aren't > going to > > run, say, a disc burner from the disk drive their > live CD > > is inserted into, but they certainly are going to > web > > browse and try to write documents or open > spreadsheets... > > This is a bit of a logical fallacy. You say this as > if one could remove > the CD burning utility and suddenly have room for an > office suite. Or > as another poster commended as if you could remove > planner and suddenly > have room for OO.org. It just doesn't work that > way. People have tried > to make room for OO.o by removing tonnes of stuff, > and what you're left > with is a CD that is still oversized and has NO > applications on it. So > if you abandon OO.o you're left with some space to > fill up, and yeah, > what to fill it with can be a challenge. What I'm saying is LiveCDs are most effective as a distro demonstration tool, and one of the most important areas to demonstrate is the presence of a functioning office suite. As far as disc burning, having a disc burning utility included in the LiveCD spin is a little silly since most PCs and notebooks have one disk drive, and most folks aren't thinking about burning a disk when the single drive they own is occupied by a LiveCD distro. This is considering the majority of demonstration cases. The technically savvy, old Unix hands and long-time Fedora users are not who I am concerned with impressing -- the technical merits of Fedora stand on their own within that group, and members of that group have other means than the LiveCD to install from anyway. So it may be useful to consider the utility of the LiveCD as a LiveCD, and not primarily as an installation medium. Regardless the history of Fedora's LiveCD being with or without an office distro, the present reality is that all other serious LiveCD distros do include an office suite and Fedora does not. This puts Fedora at a serious marketing disadvantage relative to Gentoo, Puppy or (especially) Ubuntu. -------------------------------------- Get the new Internet Explorer 8 optimized for Yahoo! JAPAN http://pr.mail.yahoo.co.jp/ie8/ -- desktop mailing list desktop@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop