Since there is so much that's going to be new in Fedora 15 compared to Fedora 14 (GNOME 3, GTK+-3, systemd, NetworkManager-0.9, and so on), the Red Hat desktop team wanted to get an early start on running the new stuff even before Fedora 14 is out. So, I spent a few hours last night and this morning upgrading my primary laptop from Fedora 13 to Rawhide. Generally worked better than I might have expected... without too much work I got to a system that seems basically usable. One big caveat is that the result of a F14 => rawhide upgrade is a messy hybrid - $ rpm -qa | grep fc14 | wc -l 631 $ rpm -qa | grep fc15 | wc -l 701 It's not nearly a pure F15 system yet. So, I thought I should dump out notes of the procedure I used and a few snags I hit to help anybody else on the same path. Upgrade procedure ================= Step 1: Used preupgrade to upgrade from f13 to f14 Worked apparently perfectly, very slick experience (Only real wart was that for encrypted root Anaconda has a "Enter passphrase to decrypt" [ ] This is a global passphrase" dialog, and the "global passphrase" thing is pretty hard to understand. "Use this passphrase for all partitions" ? Or just try it on the other partitions and ask me then if it didn't work?) Step 2: Installed fedora-release-rawhide, disabled f14, enabled rawhide Step 3: Switched to a VT and ran 'yum update --skip-broken' (I actually first tried 'telinit 3' and that didn't work right - the GNOME session was left up, VT's were gone, and the system hung when I then tried to reboot. Wonder if something got broken with the upstart => systemd => upstart adventure>) I had to remove a handful of various packages to get this to work, but I think they were all local builds or stuff I installed from 3rd party repositories. Step 4: reboot Things were mostly working at this point, Fixing the result ================= * I was left without a link from /usr/bin/emacs-<version> to /usr/bin/emacs, so I had to create that manually. * gtk3-engines didn't get installed on the upgrade, so I had to install that manually. * The GTK+ 3 module for ibus seems to be more or less broken. I had to remove ibus to get gtk3 applications to run without crashing. (Setting /desktop/gnome/interface/gtk-im-module to gtk-im-context-simple might have work, but didn't immediately seem to for some reason, and I needed to get to a less crashy state.) * Accessibility modules were producing a ton of bad looking spew and dconf-editor had a gail/treeview related crash. I couldn't figure out if there is a way of turning off accessibility entirely through the new control center, so I turned off /desktop/gnome/interface/accessibility. Strangely I had to log out and log in before GTK+ apps stopped loading the accessibility modules. g-s-d bug? * All outgoing ssh was hanging - turned out that gnome-keyring-prompt was hanging weirdly inside g_once_enter_init(); when I finally saw stderr, it was obviously a need for a rebuild because of struct size changes in gtk3. So, fired off a rebuild of gnome-keyring in koji. Also noted: 'killall gnome-settings-daemon' kills nm-applet, and leaves it in a state where it doesn't recover even after restarting g-s-d, until you log out and log back in. Weird. -- desktop mailing list desktop@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop
