On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 4:42 PM, Adam Williamson <awilliam@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On Tue, 2010-09-21 at 15:51 +0100, Michael Whapples wrote: >> I haven't managed to test out the specific package as to prepare a >> system while orca is broken is a bit hard, but I can confirm just >> installing python-xlib (I did the command: yum --assumeyes python-xlib) >> does allow orca to run. >> >> However I think there is still a problem somewhere in the accessibility >> chain as orca isn't reporting any information on what has focus, etc. As >> I said the GTK warning you mentioned does concern me, if atk-bridge >> cannot be found then GTK is not going to be providing information to >> at-spi (that's my understanding). Someone on the orca list has suggested >> setting a gconf key (/desktop/gnome/interface/at-spi-dbus to true so >> that GTK knows to use that version of atk-bridge. > > I'm definitely worried about this too. It also points up the fact that > we have no accessibility release criteria, which is a bad omission, we > should add some. Would you be available for an off-list discussion to > educate me in a11y stuff so I can write up some criteria? I think from a couple of bug reports I've seen that some of the accessibility (not sure how much, to what extent or what desktops) has been broken for 2-3 releases. > In RC3, with the orca dependency fixed, orca does run, and we're down to > just one warning at the console on the desktop spin when starting any > GNOME app. I'll investigate that as much as I can when I'm done with > desktop validation testing. > >> As a side question, is it possible for me to SSH or something like that, >> into the live environment so I possibly can get some of this information >> on my own and not have to enter commands just hoping I have typed it >> correct? > > As Bruno says, I think sshd is not running by default. You'd have to > bring the network up and start sshd before you could connect, I'm > afraid. Its definitely not running by default but I think the firewall rules allow it by default so you shouldn't have to change those. Peter -- desktop mailing list desktop@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop