On Wed, 2010-04-21 at 14:32 -0400, Bill Nottingham wrote: > Adam Williamson (awilliam@xxxxxxxxxx) said: > > We don't do anything like this at present. There are all sorts of > > packages which are useful only to some specific piece of hardware which > > we do not install by default. Off the top of my head I can think of > > synce (for manipulating Windows Mobile phones), barry (for Blackberries) > > The right answer for these is a single syncing framework that DTRT > whether it's a WinMo, Andriod, BlackBerry, iPhone, or whatever; not > random phone-specific packages. There is one, it's called opensync. synce, barry (and various other bits for other phones) ultimately use opensync for the actual synchronization stuff. But the layer between the generic framework (opensync) and the phone OS is different in each case. Even if they were all part of the same 'project' they'd be packaged as separate plugins and I doubt anyone would want to install every plugin on every system. > > and Concordance (for handling Logitech remote controls). > > Given that this is a remote programming tool (as opposed to a tool for > *using* the remote), it's likely to be special. Guessing isn't always a good idea. =) You can't use a Harmony remote without programming it; out of the box they do absolutely nothing. You have to 'program' it for the actual components you want it to control. Concordance does this. These were simply examples. There's zillions of them. We certainly don't install every package we provide for certain hardware peripherals out of the box, I don't think that can be debated. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org http://www.happyassassin.net -- desktop mailing list desktop@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop