Re: gnome-icon-theme: Where have all the icons gone?

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Am Samstag, den 10.04.2010, 14:07 -0400 schrieb Matthias Clasen:
> On Sat, 2010-04-10 at 14:30 +0200, Christoph Wickert wrote:
> > I just booted the latest Xfce nightly and I was shocked by the massive
> > changes in gnome-icon-theme: Instead of 6597 icons as in F12,
> > gnome-icon-theme now only provides 2434 icons. This means that nearly
> > all of the icons are missing in Xfce, LXDE and many more applications.
> > 
> > I know the icon naming guidelines have changed a while back, but there
> > were symbolic links for backwards compatibility. Please bring them back.
> > It is already to late to fix the huge number of packages that are broken
> > now and the change was never announced to the other maintainers.
> > 
> > I'd like to kindly remind all maintainers of their responsibility to
> > "notify others_of_changes_that_may_affect_their_packages" [1]. This is
> > very important thing, there is a whole paragraph about it on the wiki
> > page. Please honor it.
> 
> I have two answers for you. A flippant one and a serious one. Since it
> is the weekend, I'll start with the flippant one:
> 
> I'm surprised you haven't forked gnome-icon-theme yet 

Thant was a good one indeed! ;)

LXDE does have it's own icon theme, but gnome-icon-theme will be pulled
in anyway due to some weird dependencies. In order to not get too
bloated, I leave lxde-icon-theme out and use GNOME instead.

I also think that all desktops in Fedora should use a common artwork for
a seamless user experience. I might reconsider this as desktop people
have repeatedly changed the GNOME artwork without prior notice and not
even reverted the changes when they were asked to do so by many people
(one of them being the FPL).

> and removed all
> the symlink bloat yourself. Apparently, fighting bloat in your own
> desktop is cool as long as you can rely on somebody elses bloat...

I would love to not depend on someone elses bloat, believe me...

What you consider bloat is needed for cross desktop interoperability.
lxde-icon-theme has even more symlinks:
$ rpm -ql lxde-icon-theme | wc -l
   6652

> Now the more serious one: Your numbers are wrong.
> 
> [mclasen@planemask ~]$ rpm -ql gnome-icon-theme | wc -l
> 5717

This is gnome-icon-theme-2.30.0-2.fc13. You pushed it to stable just
yesterday, so you should not that it cannot be in the nightly yet. The
nightly still has 2.29.2-3.fc13.

$ rpm -qpl gnome-icon-theme-2.29.2-3.fc13.noarch.rpm | wc -l
   2434

Thanks for bringing the legacy icons back, but nether your changelog
entry nor the notes in bodhi mention that, so how is anybody supposed to
know this?

5717 is still a lot less than 6597 (2.28.0-1) and this is the source of
bugs like this one: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=573811

Regards,
Christoph

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