On 03/13/2010 06:27 AM, Matthias Clasen wrote: > > I've just built shotwell 0.5 for F13, the build should show up in > updates-testing in a bit. This is the release that has all the features > that we wanted when we decided to make it the default photo app in the > desktop spin: upload to various web services, printing, tagging, etc. > > It would be great if the photo-minded among us could give it some > testing. I am not on Rawhide yet (I have a ton of things to do these days and can't afford to do this) but checked the website (http://trac.yorba.org/wiki/UsingShotwell0.5) to learn a bit about it. For me Shotwell fails the usefulness test very quickly as it has to "import" the photos, by copying them in the Pictures dir on my home. For me this is unworkable, as having tens of thousands of photos, summing hundreds of GB stored on external drives, I need to keep the files into place. It would also be not useful for a photographer organizing and keeping his photos on DVDs, as many do... it would be a lot more useful if the application keep the image files into the original place and only create a database of filenames and metadata (but for that we don't have tracker?) This is also a problem when the user will launch the application from Live media, as the Desktop spin is, in many cases he won't have persistent write access to /home so the import in Pictures will be only temporary (and limited in size). In my opinion, if eog would have a few editing features, then a combination of eog, nautilus and tracker would do anything that shotwell do. But this is just my opinion, I use "photo organizers" very little, my workflow is like this: organizing with Nautilus and eog, a few custom imagemacick scripts to help with organizing and editing, gthumb *only* for its nice "create web album" feature and Gimp for *everything* else. -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/ -- desktop mailing list desktop@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop