On 10/20/2009 12:34 PM, Colin Walters wrote: > On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 3:54 PM, Adam Williamson <awilliam@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >> (I've never yet come across someone >> who hit the 'show desktop' button accidentally and curled into a fetal >> ball, but I'm willing to be shown some :>). > > I've personally seen a number of people new to the system do it, and > Bryan Clark (former GNOME interaction designer) mentioned it as a > problem he saw with the layout. Folks coming from Windows are accustomed to the lower left screen area target bringing up the 'Start' menu, and I have witnessed skilled Windows users trying to use Fedora specifically, assuming the button would bring up a 'Start' menu-like UI, and instead getting confused when instead all their windows disappeared. Moving the 'show desktop' button from the bottom left corner targeting area would, for that reason alone, make it easier for Windows immigrants to deal with our desktop. I believe the 'Start' menu is many Windows users' primary method to launch applications, so I think a significant portion of Windows users trying out Fedora would hit the 'Show Desktop' button in error. While it doesn't involve a show desktop button, there is a usability report and associated usability videos testing the SuSE desktop that reports users do feel disoriented and dislike when all of their windows disappear off the desktop: http://www.betterdesktop.org/welcome/reports/report-use-window-picker.html FWIW 'Show desktop' has been a critical piece of functionality for my own workflow for many years, even back when Windows was my primary desktop. Even so, I think it is not a feature appreciated by folks new to our desktop, especially from other operating systems. As a big fan of the feature, I am perfectly happy with it being a one-time right-click + add to panel affair to add it back, especially if it means an easy improvement in convertees' first-experiences with Fedora. I'd rather not make any remarks on the timing of the change, though. ~m -- Fedora-desktop-list mailing list Fedora-desktop-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-desktop-list