On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 04:09:37PM -0400, Brian Pepple wrote: > On Sat, 2009-10-10 at 22:29 -0600, Paul W. Frields wrote: > > On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 10:40:47PM +0000, Valent Turkovic wrote: > > > > > > Are Fedora developers aware of that? Is there some fallback plan to > > > include IRC support in default Fedora Desktop spin in some other way? > > > > This is a fair point, since we do have live help channels on IRC and > > not some other sort of messaging standard right now. The > > telepathy-idle package is 166KB according to yum info. Does this > > present a problem? > > No,the reason we didn't have a requires on tp-idle is that at the time > (I think this was around the F10 timeframe, but I could be wrong) we > didn't feel that it was ready to be installed by default. If folks feel > we should add the requires, I've got no problem with that. I think the point that our default desktop should include a working IRC client is a valid one, seeing as how IRC is one of our primary methods of community support. I've been able to use telepathy-idle successfully. I removed my existing GConf keys and ~/.config/Empathy folders to try to experience defaults for a new user. I was able to connect to FreeNode using the dropdown list, join a channel, and send and receive messages properly. Brian, you may want to check to see if old settings from F10/F11 Empathy may interfere with current Empathy, and if so, how to deal with them. I support making this part of the F12 requires if possible. A change will require appropriate rel-eng ticketing and so forth. -- Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug -- Fedora-desktop-list mailing list Fedora-desktop-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-desktop-list