Am Dienstag, den 29.09.2009, 09:20 -0400 schrieb Matthias Clasen: > On Tue, 2009-09-29 at 15:00 +0200, Christoph Wickert wrote: > > Am Donnerstag, den 24.09.2009, 20:48 -0400 schrieb Matthias Clasen: > > > Tomorrows rawhide will have a new notification theme for Gnome. > > > > > > The aim of this new theme is to integrate well with the theming in the > > > rest of the desktop (which wasn't really the case with nodoka bubbles > > > and a clearlooks desktop). > > > > After I have seen them now I can say I think they are horrible. We could > > really argue if the Nodoka bubbles matched the rest of Nodoka, but this > > definitely matches even less. > > > > I think such changes shouldn't been done as a solo action without > > previous notice. Has the design team been aked about this? (No, Matthias > > and Jon, you are *not* the design team, sorry). Or people from the > > desktop SIG? How about other contributors? > > The design team is busy doing backgrounds. You are busy, the design team is busy. What's the difference? We are all busy at this time of the development cycle I guess. > We _are_ doing the design of the desktop spin, whether you like it or > not. Just like I expect you to do the design of the Xfce spin, and the > KDE team to do the design of their product. I do the design of the Xfce Spin, but I do it different. I'm not making changes without asking for feedback and announcing the changes. When I introduced Nodoka for xfwm4, I did that because I was asked to do it. I posted the result to the mailing lists and *then* made the change. This is a fundamentally different from your solo actions. The order DOES matter, even if Jon says that nothing ever is final. > > IMHO this change is also very ungrateful to Martin, who does an amazing > > job with the Nodoka theme. > > Yes, he is doing a great job with the Nodoka theme. > > How does that imply that we are ungrateful by not sticking with it > forever ? By making a decision without asking the people involved. And Martin definitely is one of these people. Please give him and the rest of the community a chance respond to the problems you have with his/their work. Thanks, Christoph -- Fedora-desktop-list mailing list Fedora-desktop-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-desktop-list