Re: long running sessions, restarts, etc.

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On Tue, 29 Sep 2009, Colin Walters wrote:

On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 6:51 PM, Bill Nottingham <notting@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
      Colin Walters (walters@xxxxxxxxxx) said:
      > For system-level services, we have the idea of try-restart on upgrades; if
      > > the service is running, we automatically restart it on upgrade.
      >
      >
      > How does that work?  Obviously you can't restart packagekitd while it's in
      > the middle of upgrading.  Another one you obviously can't just kill and
      > restart is libvirtd.

Actually, libvirtd does restart on upgrade. It's implemented in the
init scripts.


But...hm, ok, so all of the state is in the config data/cache, and child qemu processes I guess.  The real point here is
the qemu processes.

      > The live replace files on disk part of upgrade is also problematic, and is
      > actually the most broken thing relating to updates we have right now.  For
      > this reason among others I think we should move to installing updates
      > immediately before logout/reboot.

Really? I think we're moving more towards a model on mobile devices where
there *is* no logout/reboot except by accident in a large number of cases.


The update system should prompt to start installing updates and automatically do a logout/reboot as necessary.


And I think what Bill is saying is that a lot of users will not want to logout. They will want to just restart the app in question, if they are told which apps are impacted.

I don't expect to have to reboot just b/c of an issue in the sound server.
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