On Tue, 2009-09-29 at 09:20 -0400, Matthias Clasen wrote: > The design team is busy doing backgrounds. The design team is doing more than just backgrounds and not everyone there is busy with doing the backgrounds. The design team is also helping with the websites design, various UI designs,... Please do not oversimplify what the design team actually does ;-) > We _are_ doing the design of the desktop spin, whether you like it or > not. Just like I expect you to do the design of the Xfce spin, and the > KDE team to do the design of their product. > I expect you to do the final selections, not the design itself -- you have the design team (the fedora one and the one at upstream) to help with that and it would be nice if you at least consulted with us when you are doing changes that are diverging from upstream defaults (I can accept that when you decide to stick with upstream defaults you don't need to hear fedora design team opinion about that). > > IMHO this change is also very ungrateful to Martin, who does an amazing > > job with the Nodoka theme. > > Yes, he is doing a great job with the Nodoka theme. > > How does that imply that we are ungrateful by not sticking with it > forever ? Yup, I don't feel that what Jon and you have done is being ungrateful to me. I've made the needed first step with providing actually good looking alternative to the bland default engine (speaking now about the notification-daemon only) and I am actually grateful that its being replaced by something that is nice, instead of reverting back to the ugly defaults. From time to time, changes are good thing. But come to thing of it, now that the alternatives are starting to "pile up", it would be actually great to have means to select the theme (other way than via whole-gnome-desktop-theme or gconf). Martin
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