So, in preparation for next weeks test day, we've looked at the state of the desktop spin in rawhide. After some complications, Adam managed to produce an iso, which actually boots into runlevel 3. X seems busted. But a console is good enough to do some basic investigation, so I've looked at size issues with this snapshot: The good news first: We've managed to get rid of the gnome-print stack on the live cd. The bad news is that we are still considerably overweight. Here is what I found when I compared the snapshot with the F11 desktop spin: iso size: 691MB -> 716MB packages: 989 -> 1027 The kernel grew 69MB -> 81MB - is this all debugging stuff ? Some big new pkgs: webkitgtk 18MB - pulled in by empathy libicu 19MB - pulled in by webkitgtk atlas 12MB - pulled in by pygtk2 via numpy boost 12MB - pulled in by gnote; all of boost gets pulled in here, even though gnote only requires boost-filesystem: bug #496188 So, we'll have to do some dieting to regain iso shape... Matthias -- Fedora-desktop-list mailing list Fedora-desktop-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-desktop-list