Hi Dan, hi all, >> It seems to me that NetworkManager Daemon >> make worse things? >> Is this a new daemon? > Nope; it's been around since FC3 at least. Had you turned > NetworkManager on before May 14th? It wasn't turned on in F8 by > default, so if it's running now then either (a) you turned it on, or (b) > I messed up the packaging and it's getting turned on in the %post or > something. I can't say for sure that it was not running before, but if i read the mail from logwatch right, it was installed with that update: Packages Installed: kdegraphics-libs - 7:3.5.9-2.fc8.i386 PersonalCopy-Lite-patches - 4.1-3.fc8.noarch imlib - 1:1.9.15-6.fc8.i386 NetworkManager - 1:0.7.0-0.6.7.svn3370.fc8.i386 system-config-network-tui - 1.5.5-1.fc8.noarch kdebase-libs - 6:3.5.9-7.fc8.i386 NetworkManager-glib - 1:0.7.0-0.6.7.svn3370.fc8.i386 kernel-devel - 2.6.24.5-85.fc8.i686 libpaper - 1.1.22-1.fc8.1.i386 python-mpd - 0.2.0-3.fc8.noarch kernel - 2.6.24.5-85.fc8.i686 poppler-qt - 0.6.2-1.fc8.i386 Packages Updated: kdebase - 6:3.5.9-7.fc8.i386 perl - 4:5.8.8-39.fc8.i386 shared-mime-info - 0.23-2.fc8.i386 rsync - 2.6.9-5.fc8.i386 openoffice.org-langpack-en - 1:2.3.0-6.14.fc8.i386 libgnomeprint22-devel - 2.18.4-1.fc8.i386 systemtap-runtime - 0.6.2-1.fc8.i386 openoffice.org-core - 1:2.3.0-6.14.fc8.i386 ...... I make the update from the console (yum update), so i think that there are dependencies with NetworkManager. > Is your eth0 supposed to be your default route to the internet, Yes. i only setup the default gateway address of the router. I have seen that eth0 is more often switched on and off during boot if NetworkManager is active and i first thought that Fedora is trying to configure the route during the off period. > and do > you have a list of custom routes defined for the eth0 device when it's > brought up? No. I only do the default fedora network setup (ip, netmask, DNS, Gateway). I never changed anything in the routing. Thanks for replying and Best Regards, Carsten -- Fedora-desktop-list mailing list Fedora-desktop-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-desktop-list