On Tue, 2008-01-08 at 13:55 -0600, Douglas McClendon wrote:
> Nils Philippsen wrote:
> > On Mon, 2008-01-07 at 21:46 -0600, Douglas McClendon wrote:
> >> Jeff Spaleta wrote:
> >>> On Jan 7, 2008 4:28 PM, Douglas McClendon
> >>> <dmc.fedora@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >>>> I had been happily just yanking usbsticks for a long time, though just
> >>>> the other day I did manage to corrupt a vfat fs on one pretty badly.
> >>> But would you ever want to yank a terabyte sized usb "stick" like
> >>> Maxtor OneTouch III Turbo 1TB External Drive?
> >> Absolutely, if I trusted that the kernel code was smart enough to never
> >> result in a corrupted filesystem.
> >
> > Hm. I had the impression that even Windows nowadays has icons to
> > "unmount" removable media (like USB sticks), possibly for a reason?
>
> why I referenced win3.1
But then win3.1 is not the shining example of robustness we should
thrive to emulate, now is it ;-).
> > Anyway, you'd also have to trust that the hardware can cope with being
> > yanked, possibly in mid-operation.
>
> Doesn't sound like an impossible engineering challenge to me. Also why
> I referenced waiting 3X the time you know that the OS config would allow
> writes to be in flight (or ye ol sync mount option).
Well, not theoretically impossible, but if I recall correctly there are
IDE/ATA/SATA(?) -- eeh -- consumer drives out there that don't even
guarantee bits to be on disk when they should be. I think Alan wrote
something about that a while ago.
Nils
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