Hi, If I understand correctly, the main goal is to make it faster for the user to see the login screen. It seems simpler then to just move the login screen earlier in the boot process (i.e. before all the stuff conditional on the network) rather than making everything depend on networking, which just happens to not be started until login. Some of the stuff starting here doesn't make sense outside of a server also...autofs, iscsi etc. We've been just killing that stuff by default for the desktop spin. -- Fedora-desktop-list mailing list Fedora-desktop-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-desktop-list