On Tue, 2007-02-27 at 13:57 -0500, Matthias Clasen wrote: > On Tue, 2007-02-27 at 13:21 -0500, David Zeuthen wrote: > > > What is stopping us is that esound is not used by default and haven't > > for a long time. I'm all for PA but we cannot turn it on by default > > until it works with f-u-s. Well, we can, but then f-u-s is useless and I > > don't think we want to ship useless products... > > There's no need to paint back-and-white here. Fast user switching > remains useful even if sound does not work with it. It would certainly > be nicer if it all just worked, but the fact that it doesn't is no > reason to exaggerate like that. Well, what pisses me off is the fact that "per-session daemon is hard, let's just do a system-wide daemon" without realizing all the implications of this (settings, security). I'm perfectly fine with having PA as a per-session daemon and sound on f-u-s not working if the following is on the PA roadmap - PA giving up sound devices on silence - PA being able to give up sound devices on session switching - emulation daemon can forward fd to per-session PA daemon or - some kind of ultra-light system-wide daemon for arbitrating access to sound hardware for per-session PA instances because then we can clean this up for F8 and/or an F7 update. But deciding on an architecture (system-wide PA) that I consider broken by design is just the wrong thing. Monty, what do you think? David -- Fedora-desktop-list mailing list Fedora-desktop-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-desktop-list