On Thu, Mar 03, 2005 at 04:19:52PM -0500, David Zeuthen wrote: > >I don't consider date/time to be "end user". That should be managed through > >ntp, which shouldn't be just tweaked at the whim of whoever sits down at the > >box. (Setting the *user's* timezone is a different issue.) > You need to be able to change timezone when traveling. User may also not > be on a network so you cannot rely on a NTP server. You shouldn't have to change the *system* timezone, though. $ echo $TZ America/New_York $ date Thu Mar 3 16:34:40 EST 2005 $ export TZ=Japan $ date Fri Mar 4 06:35:17 JST 2005 Personally, I think the system timezone should *always* be GMT, and local time always set per-user. (There could be a system default TZ, of course.) But that's a different discussion. :) > o Why should installing updates and software that is *signed* > by a key that the admin chooses to trust require root? Because it could affect other users in unpredictable ways. > o IIRC you can already install "software" as a non-privileged user > for e.g. Firefox - my point is that there is more to installing > software than just RPM Right -- that's okay, because privilege separation reduces the possible impact on others. -- Matthew Miller mattdm@xxxxxxxxxx <http://www.mattdm.org/> Boston University Linux ------> <http://linux.bu.edu/> -- Fedora-desktop-list@xxxxxxxxxx http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-desktop-list