Over the last week I have done two clean installs of FC3 on my hush (Epia M10000). The first time round I did an "everything" install just to check out what is new and the apps which I don't normally use. It took 70+ minutes and went smoothly. Second time after breaking the system* I did my normal Gnome workstation install with a few development tools. The machine is faster - boot time is shorter. Most stuff works really well. *I broke the system trying to install lirc and DVB into udev. Hey this is the 21st century - what is a computer without a digital satellite card and remote. Especially in a living room home office. Another problem is getting my Evolution 1.4 mail archives back into Evolution 2. There must be an easier way than one at a time from the old inbox. I plugged my Logitec Pocket digital in and, although I get the camera dialogue box, can not import the photos on it to my HD. I knew that this was because it is an experimental driver. To get VMware installed I had to jump through hoops to install the kernel source. OK this won't bug the average Joe but there are people who have been using a Linux desktop since 1997... Read: some of us have legacy apps... I plugged a firewire DVD-R in and it just worked. No luck with a USB key on the other hand. I still don't like Bluecurve and will have to grab some themes. This one is a 8/10 (FC1 was 7/10) so things are moving along nicely. The devil is in the details. Rather than great swooping changes most apps seem to be at the stage of need a final polish. Cheers Tony Grant -- Fedora-desktop-list@xxxxxxxxxx http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-desktop-list