I do not know where to get FC 3 I am able to lay hands on FC2 only lay idea where to get Fedora 3 CDs (In India). If I could lay hands on that I will install FC 3. Thanks for help Regards Moreshwar ----- Original Message ----- From: <fedora-desktop-list-request@xxxxxxxxxx> To: <fedora-desktop-list@xxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, November 12, 2004 15:26 Subject: Fedora-desktop-list Digest, Vol 9, Issue 3 > Send submissions to > fedora-desktop-list@xxxxxxxxxx > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-desktop-list > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > fedora-desktop-list-request@xxxxxxxxxx > > You can reach the person managing the list at > fedora-desktop-list-owner@xxxxxxxxxx > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Fedora-desktop-list digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Serial ATA Supprt (Moreshwar Salpekar) > 2. FC3 desktop can`t log out or reboot (Kaspars) > 3. Re: Serial ATA Supprt (Arturo) > 4. Re: Professionalism (Kyrre Ness Sjobak) > 5. Re: Serial ATA Supprt (Alex Catullo) > 6. Re: FC3 desktop can`t log out or reboot (Jon Orris) > 7. Re: "Professionalism" (Matthew Miller) > 8. Re: Professionalism (Alex Catullo) > 9. Re: Professionalism (Jason Knight) > 10. Re: "Professinalism" syntax (Wally Wilson) > 11. Re: Professionalism (Arturo) > 12. Re: "Professinalism" syntax (seth vidal) > 13. Re: Professionalism (Matthew Miller) > 14. Re: Professionalism (Dave Jones) > 15. Re: Professionalism (Arturo) > 16. Re: Professionalism (Douglas Furlong) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2004 23:00:25 +0530 > From: "Moreshwar Salpekar" <moreshwars@xxxxxxxxxxx> > Subject: Serial ATA Supprt > To: <fedora-desktop-list@xxxxxxxxxx> > Message-ID: <BAY18-DAV184nhrKtzc00010166@xxxxxxxxxxx> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Dear All, > I am new to this group. I just got a PC with motherboard Intel 915GAV. It > has two Serial ATA Hard disks one of 120GB with WinXP and other 80GB I want > to use for Fedora. I want to know what core of Fedore I should go for. I got > Fedora Core 1 but it is unable to detect my hard drives. Will Fedora Core 2 > Help? > I read somewhere that Linux Kernel 2.6.x supports Serial ATA but Fedora docs > mention nowhere on Serial ATA support is it there in fedora? If not where do > I get Serial ATA driver? I looked at Seagate site (both my hard drives are > Seagate) but nothing there on Serial ATA driver for Linux? > > I want to install Fedora asap. > > Regards > Moreshwar > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2004 19:15:58 +0200 > From: Kaspars <kaspars@xxxxx> > Subject: FC3 desktop can`t log out or reboot > To: fedora-desktop-list@xxxxxxxxxx > Message-ID: <41939E4E.2070105@xxxxx> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed > > > Hi all, > > I get FC3 DVD diska and installed fresh FC3 on my desktop wrk. > I boot in GUI and log in. My problem is that I can`t log out or reboot > or halt computer from GUI from desktop... i use defalt desktop what it > use. I updated all but still problem how i see is not corrected(maybe it > is only my pc problem). > So what I do is in FC3(I think def. I use Gnome), I want to reboot pc > and I go Action -> Log Out -> Chek "Restart the computer" and push Ok. > and it hangs. The some is with "Log out" or "Shut down"... I need to go > to console bu ctrl+alt+F1 and log in as root and command to reboot. > How and where to fix it? And I only have satch problem? > > thanks all, > > Casper > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2004 17:51:36 +0000 > From: Arturo <dalive@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Subject: Re: Serial ATA Supprt > To: Discussions about development for the Fedora desktop > <fedora-desktop-list@xxxxxxxxxx> > Message-ID: <4193A6A8.405@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed > > Moreshwar Salpekar wrote: > > >Dear All, > >I am new to this group. I just got a PC with motherboard Intel 915GAV. It > >has two Serial ATA Hard disks one of 120GB with WinXP and other 80GB I want > >to use for Fedora. I want to know what core of Fedore I should go for. I got > >Fedora Core 1 but it is unable to detect my hard drives. Will Fedora Core 2 > >Help? > >I read somewhere that Linux Kernel 2.6.x supports Serial ATA but Fedora docs > >mention nowhere on Serial ATA support is it there in fedora? If not where do > >I get Serial ATA driver? I looked at Seagate site (both my hard drives are > >Seagate) but nothing there on Serial ATA driver for Linux? > > > >I want to install Fedora asap. > > > >Regards > >Moreshwar > > > > > > > I am no guru. But I have an SATA HDD in my Linux server. And I built it > from scratch (components) . My motherboard also has an SATA port, I > installed FC2 without a hitch. I didn't try FC1 on that setup. > > BTW.....any reason why you're not installing FC3? > > Peace > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2004 19:08:39 +0100 > From: Kyrre Ness Sjobak <kyrre@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Subject: Re: Professionalism > To: Discussions about development for the Fedora desktop > <fedora-desktop-list@xxxxxxxxxx> > Message-ID: <1100196519.2683.3.camel@kyrre> > Content-Type: text/plain > > tor, 11.11.2004 kl. 16.08 skrev seth vidal: > > On Thu, 2004-11-11 at 14:58 +0000, chapmanccc@xxxxxxxx wrote: > > > To the developers, > > > > > > The Linux operating system is maturing and we all hope that it will be > > > a major contender in the home and business markets. As it approaches > > > this goal, the customer base changes. Linux is no longer the "geek > > > OS" it once was. Where once the predominant profile of a Linux user > > > was a young male, you now find fathers and husbands (I am both), women > > > (I am married to one) and children (I have three). Linux is my main > > > OS at home and my wife and oldest child also use it. > > > > > > With this evolution, a level of professionalism must also take place. > > > Being that the Fedora project is one of the leading consumer Linux > > > distributions, I would hope the developers would want to 'lead the > > > pack' in this area. > > > > > > This brings me to my point. I was rather disappointed with the > > > content in the "WebCollage" and "Barcode" screensavers. These > > > screensavers have since been manually removed from my system, but I > > > would have preferred them not to be installed by default. When I > > > install Mac OS or Windows, garbage like this is not included. Why? > > > Because the developers strive to build a professional product. Yes, I > > > can install items like this with Mac OS or Windows, but I would need > > > to download or purchase them after installing the OS. > > > > > > Developers, please be considerate when creating the Fedora > > > distributions and let's strive to make Linux as professional as > > > possible. > > > > I agree, We should have more professional behavior. And since most > > professionals are adults and know that world is filled with all sorts of > > things that _you_ may not like but that others may, I think we should > > respect the differences between people and let adults choose what > > behavior of their screensavers they want. Therefore, I recommend > > screensaver preferences! In EVERY DESKTOP! The ability to choose a > > screensaver must be included in the distribution to put a stop to this > > anti-professional degradation. > > > > > > oh.. wait.. they're already there. > > > > hmm. > > > > -sv > > > > Yes they are. But imagine removing those on every damn user profile > in... lets say a school. > > What really should be done, is split the screensaverpackage in three > rpms (at least) - "xscreensaver-safe", "xcsreensaver-gl", and > "xscreensaver-others". At least the two first should be installed by > default. The reason to split it, is that the gl package can then be > removed safely from systems where it is not wanted. Simply beckause they > suck CPU, and on non-hw-3d deployments, you migth not want them. > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2004 13:20:30 -0500 > From: Alex Catullo <freelance0@xxxxxxxxx> > Subject: Re: Serial ATA Supprt > To: Discussions about development for the Fedora desktop > <fedora-desktop-list@xxxxxxxxxx> > Message-ID: <6dc131f204111110201af49795@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII > > Fedora core 2 and 3 should both detect SATA. If you still have trouble > with it, in the BIOS menu, go to the "advanced" tab and look at the > IDE configuration. By default, the IDE settings are set to "enhanced" > Switch that to "legacy" and make sure SATA 0 and IDE pri and sec are > active. > > > > On Thu, 11 Nov 2004 23:00:25 +0530, Moreshwar Salpekar > <moreshwars@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > Dear All, > > I am new to this group. I just got a PC with motherboard Intel 915GAV. It > > has two Serial ATA Hard disks one of 120GB with WinXP and other 80GB I want > > to use for Fedora. I want to know what core of Fedore I should go for. I got > > Fedora Core 1 but it is unable to detect my hard drives. Will Fedora Core 2 > > Help? > > I read somewhere that Linux Kernel 2.6.x supports Serial ATA but Fedora docs > > mention nowhere on Serial ATA support is it there in fedora? If not where do > > I get Serial ATA driver? I looked at Seagate site (both my hard drives are > > Seagate) but nothing there on Serial ATA driver for Linux? > > > > I want to install Fedora asap. > > > > Regards > > Moreshwar > > > > -- > > > > Fedora-desktop-list@xxxxxxxxxx > > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-desktop-list > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2004 13:31:16 -0500 > From: Jon Orris <jorris@xxxxxxxxxx> > Subject: Re: FC3 desktop can`t log out or reboot > To: fedora-desktop-list@xxxxxxxxxx > Message-ID: <1100197876.3855.3.camel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Content-Type: text/plain > > On Thu, 2004-11-11 at 19:15 +0200, Kaspars wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > I get FC3 DVD diska and installed fresh FC3 on my desktop wrk. > > I boot in GUI and log in. My problem is that I can`t log out or reboot > > or halt computer from GUI from desktop... i use defalt desktop what it > > use. I updated all but still problem how i see is not corrected(maybe it > > is only my pc problem). > > So what I do is in FC3(I think def. I use Gnome), I want to reboot pc > > and I go Action -> Log Out -> Chek "Restart the computer" and push Ok. > > and it hangs. The some is with "Log out" or "Shut down"... I need to go > > to console bu ctrl+alt+F1 and log in as root and command to reboot. > > How and where to fix it? And I only have satch problem? > > > > thanks all, > > >From your description, it sounds like this bug that I reported: > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=134265 > > The current workaround is to disable DRI, at least on my machine. > > It may be helpful in tracking the root cause if you append your hardware > & xconfig info to the bug report. > > > -- > Jon Orris <jorris@xxxxxxxxxx> > Red Hat > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2004 13:35:56 -0500 > From: Matthew Miller <mattdm@xxxxxxxxxx> > Subject: Re: "Professionalism" > To: Discussions about development for the Fedora desktop > <fedora-desktop-list@xxxxxxxxxx> > Message-ID: <20041111183556.GB30285@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > On Thu, Nov 11, 2004 at 10:49:59AM -0500, Dave Jones wrote: > > At OLS last year (I think during Erik Troan's talk on conary), whilst > > taking questions, barcode kicked in. On a ~10ft projector, with the > > word 'flatulence'. > > That's one of the words that's patched out, actually. > > Hmm; on looking, the "sanitize-hacks" patch wasn't in FC2; it's new to FC3. > Perhaps right after the incident you mention. :) > > > -- > Matthew Miller mattdm@xxxxxxxxxx <http://www.mattdm.org/> > Boston University Linux ------> <http://linux.bu.edu/> > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 8 > Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2004 14:06:46 -0500 > From: Alex Catullo <freelance0@xxxxxxxxx> > Subject: Re: Professionalism > To: Discussions about development for the Fedora desktop > <fedora-desktop-list@xxxxxxxxxx> > Message-ID: <6dc131f20411111106640f5e9f@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII > > Professionalism in linux is definitely a nice thing, but if you want > it, go out and get a copy of enterprise Linux. In Fedora, it's all > about the bleeding edge technology and newest ideas from the > community, and being "professional" limits that quite a bit. At least > in fedora ther'es the freedom for the creative things like the > "unprofessional" barcode and flying toasters screensavers. That's what > it's all about, the freedom to add any ideas; and that's why Fedora > isn't "professional" > > "I was rather disappointed with the content in the "WebCollage" and > "Barcode" screensavers. These screensavers have since been manually > removed from my system, but I would have preferred them not to be > installed by default. When I install Mac OS or Windows, garbage like > this is not included. Why?" > > Because this is Linux. Linux is meant to be that quirky OS that > releives the boredom of stock operating systems like windows. If you > want to be professional, use RHEL. But in Fedora, we strive to endorse > new ideas, regardless of their "professionality" > > On Thu, 11 Nov 2004 19:08:39 +0100, Kyrre Ness Sjobak > <kyrre@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > tor, 11.11.2004 kl. 16.08 skrev seth vidal: > > > > > > > On Thu, 2004-11-11 at 14:58 +0000, chapmanccc@xxxxxxxx wrote: > > > > To the developers, > > > > > > > > The Linux operating system is maturing and we all hope that it will be > > > > a major contender in the home and business markets. As it approaches > > > > this goal, the customer base changes. Linux is no longer the "geek > > > > OS" it once was. Where once the predominant profile of a Linux user > > > > was a young male, you now find fathers and husbands (I am both), women > > > > (I am married to one) and children (I have three). Linux is my main > > > > OS at home and my wife and oldest child also use it. > > > > > > > > With this evolution, a level of professionalism must also take place. > > > > Being that the Fedora project is one of the leading consumer Linux > > > > distributions, I would hope the developers would want to 'lead the > > > > pack' in this area. > > > > > > > > This brings me to my point. I was rather disappointed with the > > > > content in the "WebCollage" and "Barcode" screensavers. These > > > > screensavers have since been manually removed from my system, but I > > > > would have preferred them not to be installed by default. When I > > > > install Mac OS or Windows, garbage like this is not included. Why? > > > > Because the developers strive to build a professional product. Yes, I > > > > can install items like this with Mac OS or Windows, but I would need > > > > to download or purchase them after installing the OS. > > > > > > > > Developers, please be considerate when creating the Fedora > > > > distributions and let's strive to make Linux as professional as > > > > possible. > > > > > > I agree, We should have more professional behavior. And since most > > > professionals are adults and know that world is filled with all sorts of > > > things that _you_ may not like but that others may, I think we should > > > respect the differences between people and let adults choose what > > > behavior of their screensavers they want. Therefore, I recommend > > > screensaver preferences! In EVERY DESKTOP! The ability to choose a > > > screensaver must be included in the distribution to put a stop to this > > > anti-professional degradation. > > > > > > > > > oh.. wait.. they're already there. > > > > > > hmm. > > > > > > -sv > > > > > > > Yes they are. But imagine removing those on every damn user profile > > in... lets say a school. > > > > What really should be done, is split the screensaverpackage in three > > rpms (at least) - "xscreensaver-safe", "xcsreensaver-gl", and > > "xscreensaver-others". At least the two first should be installed by > > default. The reason to split it, is that the gl package can then be > > removed safely from systems where it is not wanted. Simply beckause they > > suck CPU, and on non-hw-3d deployments, you migth not want them. > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Fedora-desktop-list@xxxxxxxxxx > > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-desktop-list > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 9 > Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2004 16:31:27 -0500 > From: Jason Knight <jason@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Subject: Re: Professionalism > To: Alex Catullo <freelance0@xxxxxxxxx>, Discussions about development > for the Fedora desktop <fedora-desktop-list@xxxxxxxxxx> > Message-ID: <4193DA2F.5090409@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed > > I understand both sides of the coin but I agree with Alex. Also; > > [And since most professionals are adults and know that world is filled > with all sorts of things that _you_ may not like but that others may[...]] > > This works both ways, Fedora is a project meant to encourage creativity > and contribution. It makes no claims to being "The Safest Linux for Your > Kids!", "Squeamish? Worry not dear fellow, we strive daily to insure > that you and your family are completely insolated from the peckidillos > and quirks of others!" > > "We either accept all freedom for all people, or we accept no freedom > for anyone. The happy medium is an illusion." > > Of course, Fedora is RH's project, and it is steered by a committee, so > we must abide by their decsions, but I don't see even mildly-moderately > offensive screensavers being a huge issue in an Open Source, community > driven project where creative innovation is desired. Let's try to keep a > light heart! > > > > -ishikawa > > > Alex Catullo wrote: > > >Professionalism in linux is definitely a nice thing, but if you want > >it, go out and get a copy of enterprise Linux. In Fedora, it's all > >about the bleeding edge technology and newest ideas from the > >community, and being "professional" limits that quite a bit. At least > >in fedora ther'es the freedom for the creative things like the > >"unprofessional" barcode and flying toasters screensavers. That's what > >it's all about, the freedom to add any ideas; and that's why Fedora > >isn't "professional" > > > > "I was rather disappointed with the content in the "WebCollage" and > >"Barcode" screensavers. These screensavers have since been manually > >removed from my system, but I would have preferred them not to be > >installed by default. When I install Mac OS or Windows, garbage like > >this is not included. Why?" > > > >Because this is Linux. Linux is meant to be that quirky OS that > >releives the boredom of stock operating systems like windows. If you > >want to be professional, use RHEL. But in Fedora, we strive to endorse > >new ideas, regardless of their "professionality" > > > >On Thu, 11 Nov 2004 19:08:39 +0100, Kyrre Ness Sjobak > ><kyrre@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 10 > Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2004 14:28:51 -0800 > From: Wally Wilson <alt.wally@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Subject: Re: "Professinalism" syntax > To: fedora-desktop-list@xxxxxxxxxx > Message-ID: <1100212131.2230.10.camel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Content-Type: text/plain > > To: Discussions about development for the Fedora desktop > > On Thu, 2004-11-11 at 10:49 -0500, Dave Jones wrote: > > On Thu, Nov 11, 2004 at 10:34:40AM -0500, Matthew Miller wrote: > > > > At OLS last year (I think during Erik Troan's talk on conary), whilst > > taking questions, barcode kicked in. On a ~10ft projector, with the > > word 'flatulence'. > > > > Unfortunate and somewhat embarressing perhaps, but highly amusing. > > > > The choice of words barcode uses do seem to be of this nature a lot > > of the time, so I can sort of see the OPs point. > > I'm all for professionalism but I'm MORE for acting like an adult and > realizing the world isn't all roses and tea. > -sv > -------------------------------- > > The real issue -- the issue that the original author failed to address > -- is not about "professionalism" at all. The real issue is about > personal mores and taste. > > Words mean things, and the Fedora package is every bit as "professional" > as any other Linux distro. > > If someone does not like, or want something as simple as a screen saver, > for whatever reasons, it is their choice and their responsibility to > address the matter on each machine they administer. The same argument > could be made for including games in the distro when it is used in a > work environment that does not allow games. > > The responsibility for administering a system lies with the owner, not > the software manufacturer. MS has made good money trying to remove the > responsibility of system admin from its userbase, and that is not how > the real world works. > > -wally > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 11 > Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2004 00:06:40 +0000 > From: Arturo <dalive@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Subject: Re: Professionalism > To: Discussions about development for the Fedora desktop > <fedora-desktop-list@xxxxxxxxxx> > Message-ID: <4193FE90.3090402@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed > > Kyrre Ness Sjobak wrote: > > >tor, 11.11.2004 kl. 16.08 skrev seth vidal: > > > > > >>On Thu, 2004-11-11 at 14:58 +0000, chapmanccc@xxxxxxxx wrote: > >> > >> > >>>To the developers, > >>> > >>>The Linux operating system is maturing and we all hope that it will be > >>>a major contender in the home and business markets. As it approaches > >>>this goal, the customer base changes. Linux is no longer the "geek > >>>OS" it once was. Where once the predominant profile of a Linux user > >>>was a young male, you now find fathers and husbands (I am both), women > >>>(I am married to one) and children (I have three). Linux is my main > >>>OS at home and my wife and oldest child also use it. > >>> > >>>With this evolution, a level of professionalism must also take place. > >>>Being that the Fedora project is one of the leading consumer Linux > >>>distributions, I would hope the developers would want to 'lead the > >>>pack' in this area. > >>> > >>>This brings me to my point. I was rather disappointed with the > >>>content in the "WebCollage" and "Barcode" screensavers. These > >>>screensavers have since been manually removed from my system, but I > >>>would have preferred them not to be installed by default. When I > >>>install Mac OS or Windows, garbage like this is not included. Why? > >>>Because the developers strive to build a professional product. Yes, I > >>>can install items like this with Mac OS or Windows, but I would need > >>>to download or purchase them after installing the OS. > >>> > >>>Developers, please be considerate when creating the Fedora > >>>distributions and let's strive to make Linux as professional as > >>>possible. > >>> > >>> > >>I agree, We should have more professional behavior. And since most > >>professionals are adults and know that world is filled with all sorts of > >>things that _you_ may not like but that others may, I think we should > >>respect the differences between people and let adults choose what > >>behavior of their screensavers they want. Therefore, I recommend > >>screensaver preferences! In EVERY DESKTOP! The ability to choose a > >>screensaver must be included in the distribution to put a stop to this > >>anti-professional degradation. > >> > >> > >>oh.. wait.. they're already there. > >> > >>hmm. > >> > >>-sv > >> > >> > >> > > > >Yes they are. But imagine removing those on every damn user profile > >in... lets say a school. > > > >What really should be done, is split the screensaverpackage in three > >rpms (at least) - "xscreensaver-safe", "xcsreensaver-gl", and > >"xscreensaver-others". At least the two first should be installed by > >default. The reason to split it, is that the gl package can then be > >removed safely from systems where it is not wanted. Simply beckause they > >suck CPU, and on non-hw-3d deployments, you migth not want them. > > > > > > > This is the most constructive suggestion I've seen on the list so far in > response to this issue, and so I second it.. I am however, somwhat > curious as to what offensive words popped-up in Barcode. > > Peace > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 12 > Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2004 19:21:50 -0500 > From: seth vidal <skvidal@xxxxxxxxxxxx> > Subject: Re: "Professinalism" syntax > To: Discussions about development for the Fedora desktop > <fedora-desktop-list@xxxxxxxxxx> > Message-ID: <1100218910.6926.10.camel@binkley> > Content-Type: text/plain > > > > > Words mean things, and the Fedora package is every bit as "professional" > > as any other Linux distro. > > > actually, it's not, it is explicitly a hobbyist distro. > > see the website. > > -sv > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 13 > Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2004 19:31:45 -0500 > From: Matthew Miller <mattdm@xxxxxxxxxx> > Subject: Re: Professionalism > To: Discussions about development for the Fedora desktop > <fedora-desktop-list@xxxxxxxxxx> > Message-ID: <20041112003145.GA9755@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > On Fri, Nov 12, 2004 at 12:06:40AM +0000, Arturo wrote: > > This is the most constructive suggestion I've seen on the list so far in > > response to this issue, and so I second it.. I am however, somwhat > > curious as to what offensive words popped-up in Barcode. > > Here's the list from FC3 (take that, Bayesian filters...): > > abdomen > abeyance > abhorrence > abrasion > abstraction > acid > addiction > alertness > Algeria > anxiety > aorta > argyle socks > attrition > axis of evil > bamboo > bangle > bankruptcy > baptism > beer > bellicosity > bells > belly > bliss > bogosity > booty > bread > bubba > burrito > California > capybara > cardinality > caribou > carnage > children > chocolate > CLONE > constriction > contrition > cop > corpse > cowboy > crabapple > craziness > cthulhu > Death > decepticon > deception > Decker > decoder > decoy > defenestration > democracy > dependency > despair > desperation > disease > disease > doberman > DOOM > dreams > dreams > drugs > easy > ebony > election > eloquence > emergency > eureka > excommunication > fat > fatherland > Faust > fear > fever > filth > fluff > fnord > freedom > fruit > fruit > futility > gerbils > GOD > goggles > goobers > gorilla > halibut > handmaid > happiness > hate > helplessness > hermaphrodite > heroine > hope > hysteria > icepick > identity > ignorance > importance > individuality > inkling > insurrection > intoxicant > ire > irritant > jade > jaundice > Joyce > kidney stone > kitchenette > kiwi > lathe > lattice > lawyer > lemming > liquidation > lobbyist > love > lozenge > magazine > magnesium > malfunction > marmot > marshmallow > merit > merkin > mescaline > milk > mischief > mistrust > money > monkey > monkeybutter > nationalism > nature > neuron > noise > nomenclature > nutria > OBEY > ocelot > offspring > overseer > pain > pajamas > passenger > passion > Passover > peace > penance > persimmon > petticoat > pharmacist > PhD > pitchfork > plague > Poindexter > politician > pony > presidency > prison > prophecy > Prozac > punishment > punk rock > punk > quagmire > quarantine > quartz > rabies > radish > rage > readout > reality > reject > rejection > respect > revolution > roadrunner > rule > savor > scab > scalar > Scandinavia > schadenfreude > security > sediment > self worth > sickness > silicone > slack > slander > slavery > sledgehammer > smegma > smelly socks > sorrow > space program > stamen > standardization > stench > subculture > subversion > suffering > surrender > surveillance > synthesis > television > tenant > tendril > terror > terrorism > terrorist > the impossible > the unknown > toast > topography > truism > turgid > underbrush > underling > unguent > unusual > uplink > urge > valor > variance > vaudeville > vector > vegetarian > venom > verifiability > victim > vignette > villainy > W.A.S.T.E. > wagon > waiver > warehouse > waste > waveform > whiffle ball > whorl > windmill > words > worm > worship > worship > Xanax > Xerxes > Xhosa > xylophone > yellow > yesterday > your nose > Zanzibar > zeal > zebra > zest > zinc > > > -- > Matthew Miller mattdm@xxxxxxxxxx <http://www.mattdm.org/> > Boston University Linux ------> <http://linux.bu.edu/> > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 14 > Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2004 19:38:33 -0500 > From: Dave Jones <davej@xxxxxxxxxx> > Subject: Re: Professionalism > To: Discussions about development for the Fedora desktop > <fedora-desktop-list@xxxxxxxxxx> > Message-ID: <20041112003833.GB5988@xxxxxxxxxx> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > On Thu, Nov 11, 2004 at 07:31:45PM -0500, Matthew Miller wrote: > > On Fri, Nov 12, 2004 at 12:06:40AM +0000, Arturo wrote: > > > This is the most constructive suggestion I've seen on the list so far in > > > response to this issue, and so I second it.. I am however, somwhat > > > curious as to what offensive words popped-up in Barcode. > > > > Here's the list from FC3 (take that, Bayesian filters...): > > It's certainly an insight into that developers head 8-) > > Monkeybutter indeed.. *shakes head* > > Dave > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 15 > Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2004 00:51:47 +0000 > From: Arturo <dalive@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Subject: Re: Professionalism > To: Discussions about development for the Fedora desktop > <fedora-desktop-list@xxxxxxxxxx> > Message-ID: <41940923.60902@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed > > Dave Jones wrote: > > >On Thu, Nov 11, 2004 at 07:31:45PM -0500, Matthew Miller wrote: > > > On Fri, Nov 12, 2004 at 12:06:40AM +0000, Arturo wrote: > > > > This is the most constructive suggestion I've seen on the list so far in > > > > response to this issue, and so I second it.. I am however, somwhat > > > > curious as to what offensive words popped-up in Barcode. > > > > > > Here's the list from FC3 (take that, Bayesian filters...): > > > >It's certainly an insight into that developers head 8-) > > > > > And what have you learnt, pray tell > > >Monkeybutter indeed.. *shakes head* > > > > Dave > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 16 > Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2004 09:55:44 +0000 > From: Douglas Furlong <douglas.furlong@xxxxxxxxxxx> > Subject: Re: Professionalism > To: Discussions about development for the Fedora desktop > <fedora-desktop-list@xxxxxxxxxx> > Message-ID: <1100253344.3313.95.camel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > On Fri, 2004-11-12 at 00:51 +0000, Arturo wrote: > > Dave Jones wrote: > > > > >On Thu, Nov 11, 2004 at 07:31:45PM -0500, Matthew Miller wrote: > > > > On Fri, Nov 12, 2004 at 12:06:40AM +0000, Arturo wrote: > > > > > This is the most constructive suggestion I've seen on the list so far in > > > > > response to this issue, and so I second it.. I am however, somwhat > > > > > curious as to what offensive words popped-up in Barcode. > > > > > > > > Here's the list from FC3 (take that, Bayesian filters...): > > > > > >It's certainly an insight into that developers head 8-) > > > > > > > > And what have you learnt, pray tell > > > If nothing else it has kept me highly ammused. > > However, I am not entirely sure how "Abdomen" is an offencive word, or > unprofessional for that matter :) > > > -- > Douglas Furlong > Systems Administrator > Firebox.com > T: 0870 420 4475 F: 0870 220 2178 > -------------- next part -------------- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: not available > Type: application/pgp-signature > Size: 189 bytes > Desc: This is a digitally signed message part > Url : /archives/fedora-desktop-list/attachments/20041112/30caf2b3/attachment.bin > > ------------------------------ > > -- > > Fedora-desktop-list@xxxxxxxxxx > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-desktop-list > > End of Fedora-desktop-list Digest, Vol 9, Issue 3 > ************************************************* > -- Fedora-desktop-list@xxxxxxxxxx http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-desktop-list
