On Tue, 2003-12-02 at 19:51, Havoc Pennington wrote: > On Mon, 2003-12-01 at 14:43, Trae McCombs wrote: > > Is there going to be some sort of committee that approves things? > > I tend to say there's a committee with one person on it, namely Garrett > ;-) > Good! > Code surely suffers from design by committee, but graphics seem to > suffer even more. > I more than concur. > Not to say Fedora Extras especially can't contain all kinds of alternate > themes and backgrounds but I think the Fedora default appearance really > benefits from a quality dictatorship. This should still be a limited contribution so as not to take up too much space. > The point is to be sure the defaults stay consistent and attractive, I > don't think there's any need to suppress alternate themes, though I'd > say the default install should try to keep a nice sane set of choices > that appeal to a variety of people. You took the words right out of my mouth. There is a BIG difference here where people are starting to get all excited and talk about themes and what-not. Fedora, or any distro for that matter, should NEVER be a theme repository. There are way too many different look and feels out there, and to try and include a smattering of all of them would take up tons of space; space on iso's that would be better spent on high-quality applications. The main thing we need to concentrate on, and TBH, Garrett has most of this pegged out 99.999%, is the default look for Fedora. I think there are a few minor tweaks here and there that need to take place, but over all, Fedora has a great look and feel that rivals, if not beats, all other desktops. I even enjoy using it much more than MacOSX. So again, let's not waste time, and bandwidth on this list talking about themes, but more or less spend time on tweaking, and doing ever-so-slight modifications to further enhance the great work that Garrett has already done. Furthermore, keep in mind that any graphics that get accepted should be of the highest quality. Just because someone fires up Gimp and creates a logo, and they, and their friends, happen to think it's cool, doesn't mean it would be the best fit for Fedora. There are tons of artists out there who have different tastes and styles, and when it comes to consistency, we need to stay with the current look and feel no matter if it's Icons, Backgrounds, Window Borders, Boot-up screens, or whatever. I personally know Garrett, and know he's a really nice guy, but he's going to have to put his foot down on some of these submissions. Again, that has nothing to do with an artists ability, but more or less his, Garrett's, knowledge and understanding of what style fits better with the current Fedora overall look and feel. Thanks for your time, Trae -- Trae McCombs http://occy.net/ founder: themes.org || linux.com