Hi folks, We had a design team meeting today. We talked about the F28 wallpaper (see https://pagure.io/design/issue/566) , some concerns about Mindshare / Ambassadors swag designs, and a little ticket triage. We have two new open tickets that have been triaged and are ready for you to pick up :) One is particularly good for a newbie to pick up, so if you're looking for a task to work on it's a good place to start: - Find and destroy old, outdated, bad swag and marketing collateral from the wiki https://pagure.io/design/issue/583 -Let's bring back pandas! (sticker sheet request) [newbie] https://pagure.io/design/issue/579 I've attached the meeting log from Riot because for some reason meetbot didn't work. Cheers! ~m
#startmeeting design-team M mleonova (IRC) hi ;) np so I heard! S sadin (IRC) oh thats right my friends up that way were going on about snow mizmoFedora Project (+fedoraproject:matrix.org) yeh luckily the HS is closed so my babysitter had the day off to watch my kiddos :) M mleonova (IRC) =) mizmoFedora Project (+fedoraproject:matrix.org) ok #topic f28 wallpaper this is our biggest deliverable right now i think we only have a couple weeks or so to refine i blogged on planet fedora a hi res render of the latest, gotten a lot of positive feedback M mleonova (IRC) yeah! but I think it's going pretty well mizmoFedora Project (+fedoraproject:matrix.org) the main suggestion i got for iterating is trying to make the infinity symbol a different length of strand than the f symbol S sadin (IRC) Been tweaking some of the blender files on my workstation at home mizmoFedora Project (+fedoraproject:matrix.org) i haven't had time yet to play with that (im not 100% sure how to do it) Ssadin: any luck with it? S sadin (IRC) Made changes to angles and the particles just need to post them to pagure mizmoFedora Project (+fedoraproject:matrix.org) Ssadin: awesome id love to see it this is why im kind of excited about using blender, i think it enables more participation, it's less work to hack on a file that's been set up i think all right, any thing else to discuss re: wallpaper or are we good? S sadin (IRC) unfortunately im in the office, and my workstation is at home so ill get those posted at the end of the day :) K kathryng (IRC) joined the room. mizmoFedora Project (+fedoraproject:matrix.org) Ssadin: sounds good S sadin (IRC) mizmo I love it, and I setup a small render farm at home with my Xeon server so its pretty quick mizmo anything specific were looking for with it? mizmoFedora Project (+fedoraproject:matrix.org) nope, just make it as nice as possible for F28 final :) has anyone heard feedback on the beta wallpaper? S sadin (IRC) You mentioned the "F" being different? mizmoFedora Project (+fedoraproject:matrix.org) i heard a couple of very positive comments M mleonova (IRC) that's great! S sadin (IRC) forgive me but, which specifically is the beta wallpaper? mizmoFedora Project (+fedoraproject:matrix.org) Ssadin: it's an earlier version of the blender file you've been working on S sadin (IRC) mizmo: got it I havent heard anything personally mizmoFedora Project (+fedoraproject:matrix.org) Ssadin: it's up a little higher in the pagure ticket K kathryng (IRC) left the room. mizmoFedora Project (+fedoraproject:matrix.org) ok cool any other topics to discuss before we do ticket triage? M mleonova (IRC) yeah I have some points from Mindhsare *Mindshare so 1 thing we discovered is that https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing_collateral is widely used in LATAM Ambassadors/Design - Fedora Project Wiki Search wiki Fedora Project Wiki News Events Features Recent changes Random page Help Navigation Home Get Fedora Join Fedora sub-projects Ambassadors Community Operations Design Documentation mizmoFedora Project (+fedoraproject:matrix.org) #topic mindshare mleonova (IRC) which leads to another point - the assets repo mizmoFedora Project (+fedoraproject:matrix.org) Mmleonova: it looks like it redirects to ambassadors/design, that's good right (that page looks reasonable to me) the old marketing collateral wiki page tho - no bueno S sesivany (IRC) left the room. M mleonova (IRC) there still seems to be a disconnect of how Ambassadors get swag mizmoFedora Project (+fedoraproject:matrix.org) it'd be nice if we had a neat front end to the assets repo M mleonova (IRC) some of them don't know the process despite Justin's post https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/new-guidelines-fedora-ambassadors-design/#more-1791 New guidelines for Fedora Ambassadors and Design - Fedora Community Blog - Fedora Community Blog Together, Fedorans worked together on writing official guidelines for Ambassadors requesting artwork from the Fedora Design Team. there's also this page https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Design Ambassadors/Design - Fedora Project Wiki Search wiki Fedora Project Wiki News Events Features Recent changes Random page Help Navigation Home Get Fedora Join Fedora sub-projects Ambassadors Community Operations Design Documentation yeah, we tried to fix it partially mizmoFedora Project (+fedoraproject:matrix.org) maybe a reminder post :-/ M mleonova (IRC) so yeah, the assets with the basic stuff will be great mizmoFedora Project (+fedoraproject:matrix.org) so i cant even view the marketing collateral page it just redirects to ambassadors design M mleonova (IRC) somewhere... :) mizmoFedora Project (+fedoraproject:matrix.org) i guess the problem is if we point people at a git repo on pagure they wont get a good idea of what we have maybe? i dont know maybe the ambassadors design page should point to the asset repo in pagure? one issue with the asset repo, i dont know if we have cmyk versions of everything there, or if print-ready is marked clearly vs source M mleonova (IRC) it was reeeally old I think a good idea would be for them just to open tickets for anything they need then we can easily find whatever they need and provide correct files but how to get the point across? mizmoFedora Project (+fedoraproject:matrix.org) yeh i think thats probably better but that's always been the process and its not always followed :( they dont want to wait on a ticket is my guess they want something instant / self service M mleonova (IRC) true mizmoFedora Project (+fedoraproject:matrix.org) did any ambassadors in mindshare share why they didnt open a ticket? we could do some sort of survey or something to figure out more about whats going on or figure out what key terms theyre looking for when they search for swag art and make sure the top results in the wiki / elsewhere point to a doc saying open a design ticket M mleonova (IRC) there was x3mboy, who was talking about LATAM and they just don't know to do it somehow they got the marketing page and used just that if I remember correctly mizmoFedora Project (+fedoraproject:matrix.org) well Xx3mboy knows how to do it though and he's opened up a lot of tickets M mleonova (IRC) survey sounds good mizmoFedora Project (+fedoraproject:matrix.org) maybe we should go through the wiki and look for the old cruft and annihilate it :) M mleonova (IRC) hehe ;) mizmoFedora Project (+fedoraproject:matrix.org) #idea annihilate old crufty swag/collateral designs from wiki #idea survey ambassadors and figure out how they currently get swag / what they look for / key terms M mleonova (IRC) so looks like we need to - review assets - review wiki - contact ambassadors mizmoFedora Project (+fedoraproject:matrix.org) #idea populate ambassador swag key terms with pointers to design ticket queue on wiki (Elsewhere?) M mleonova (IRC) exactly I volunteer to put together a list of swag with links mizmoFedora Project (+fedoraproject:matrix.org) +1 Mmleonova: a list of good swag right? or the annihilation list? >:) M mleonova (IRC) the former =) * mizmo just likes saying annihilation M mleonova (IRC) I'll open a ticket for myself right now mizmoFedora Project (+fedoraproject:matrix.org) #action mleonova to put together a list of approevd swag with links S sadin (IRC) its a good word mizmoFedora Project (+fedoraproject:matrix.org) maybe we add your list to the ambassadors/design page? M mleonova (IRC) do you like doing it? =) S * sadin (IRC) is still here just in a physical meeting as well mizmoFedora Project (+fedoraproject:matrix.org) i dont mind deleting stuf ill make a ticket for that M mleonova (IRC) that's a good idea! X 13:35 x3mboy (IRC) shows up M mleonova (IRC) x3mboy, heya S sadin (IRC) ello x3mboy X x3mboy (IRC) mleonova, sadin, mizmo hello! I didn't open a lot of tickets :'( Just a few M mleonova (IRC) let's say some ;) and it's great that you did otherwise correct me if I repeated anything wrongly X x3mboy (IRC) No, it's totally right M mleonova (IRC) cool X x3mboy (IRC) Some Latam ambassadors were using the old marketing collateral to take the old outdated desing I like the ideas you have proposed EOF M mleonova (IRC) =) X * x3mboy (IRC) in spy mode again M mleonova (IRC) ok, this is open https://pagure.io/design/issue/582 Issue #582: Create a list of approved swag - design - Pagure Overview Docs Commits Files Releases Issues 42 Pull Requests 1 mizmoFedora Project (+fedoraproject:matrix.org) Xx3mboy: a lot of tickets in a good way :) the way we want them to be opened :) here is the annihilation ticket: https://pagure.io/design/issue/583 Issue #583: Find and destroy old, outdated, bad swag and marketing collateral from the wiki - design - Pagure Overview Docs Commits Files Releases Issues 42 Pull Requests 1 ok anything else to discuss on this topic? M mleonova (IRC) no, I think not we can move on :) mizmoFedora Project (+fedoraproject:matrix.org) okay cool lets hit some tickets for triage #topic triage https://pagure.io/design/issue/581 Issue #581: Poster design for Fedora 28 Release Parties - design - Pagure Overview Docs Commits Files Releases Issues 42 Pull Requests 1 Poster design for Fedora 28 Release Parties M mleonova (IRC) I opened that one to make sure we're on track mizmoFedora Project (+fedoraproject:matrix.org) my kernel just panicked, on phone now M mleonova (IRC) so once release parties start we'll be ready with badges ad posters mizmoFedora Project (+fedoraproject:matrix.org) looks like someone is interested just waiting on wallpaper M mleonova (IRC) poor kernel mizmoFedora Project (+fedoraproject:matrix.org) need to mark it triaged and assign to them i couldnt calm it down just have to give it the boot :-p M mleonova (IRC) I can do that mizmoFedora Project (+fedoraproject:matrix.org) awesome thx * mizmo almost back up and running M mleonova (IRC) ok, done mizmoFedora Project (+fedoraproject:matrix.org) awesome ok next one M mleonova (IRC) https://pagure.io/design/issue/580 Issue #580: Mindshare Committee logo design - design - Pagure Overview Docs Commits Files Releases Issues 42 Pull Requests 1 mizmoFedora Project (+fedoraproject:matrix.org) https://pagure.io/design/issue/580 Issue #580: Mindshare Committee logo design - design - Pagure Overview Docs Commits Files Releases Issues 42 Pull Requests 1 Mindshare Committee logo design M mleonova (IRC) Mindshare Committee logo design mizmoFedora Project (+fedoraproject:matrix.org) Mmleonova: need any ideas for this one? M mleonova (IRC) on it :) let me mark it triaged mizmoFedora Project (+fedoraproject:matrix.org) okie dokie next... https://pagure.io/design/issue/579 Issue #579: Let's bring back pandas! (sticker sheet request) - design - Pagure Overview Docs Commits Files Releases Issues 42 Pull Requests 1 Let's bring back pandas! (sticker sheet request) M mleonova (IRC) ideas always welcome! mizmoFedora Project (+fedoraproject:matrix.org) we totally need badgers badgers and pandas, together M mleonova (IRC) mizmo, really need your opinion on this one mizmoFedora Project (+fedoraproject:matrix.org) the sticker sheet? M mleonova (IRC) you're the panda expert :) cool S sadin (IRC) sloths are cool but they would send the rong message :) M mleonova (IRC) yeah :) S sadin (IRC) wrong* M mleonova (IRC) we should be good with badgers and pandas mizmoFedora Project (+fedoraproject:matrix.org) let me look at the sheets he linked to honestly - i think what might be a good plan, is to go through the badges artwork and see what pandas and badgers we could extract theres a lot of fun ones with all different outfits and poses and it would give that awesome artwork more exposure what do you think? M mleonova (IRC) yes! I agree. Can you please comment? mizmoFedora Project (+fedoraproject:matrix.org) will do * mizmo salutes M mleonova (IRC) thanks :) S sadin (IRC) Anything else I might be able to help with besides wallpapers? mizmoFedora Project (+fedoraproject:matrix.org) Ssadin: trawl through badges.fedoraproject.org and identify interesting badgers and pandas that would make good stickers :) K kathryng (IRC) joined the room. mizmoFedora Project (+fedoraproject:matrix.org) this is a good ticket for a newbie to work on actually https://pagure.io/design/issue/579 Issue #579: Let's bring back pandas! (sticker sheet request) - design - Pagure Overview Docs Commits Files Releases Issues 42 Pull Requests 1 S sadin (IRC) mizmo ok! is this ticket 579? Have it bookmarked mizmoFedora Project (+fedoraproject:matrix.org) Ssadin: ye yep so one thing that's been happening S sadin (IRC) Maybe I should hold off on it then and let a newbie? mizmoFedora Project (+fedoraproject:matrix.org) a lot of newcomers have had trouble finding tickets to work on S sadin (IRC) Or do you just want me to keep suggesting badges mizmoFedora Project (+fedoraproject:matrix.org) i think ill send out the minutes after the meeting today and at the top have a list of open tickets Ssadin: feel free to suggest them in the ticket but let a newbie claim it i think it'd be helpful for them to see examples of what we're talking about to get them started S sadin (IRC) Understood! is there a flag for newbie friendly tickets under issues? mizmoFedora Project (+fedoraproject:matrix.org) there was one sec i was using 'bounty' as the tag but i had a specific format K kathryng (IRC) left the room. S sadin (IRC) gotcha mizmoFedora Project (+fedoraproject:matrix.org) eg https://pagure.io/design/issue/569 Issue #569: Fedora Diversity Team Shirt - design - Pagure Overview Docs Commits Files Releases Issues 42 Pull Requests 1 S sadin (IRC) 561 has it maybe at triage point we can try to doublecheck to flag 'bounty' ? if needed M mleonova (IRC) I gotta run - thank you everyone! S sadin (IRC) seeya mleonova !! MM mleonova (IRC) bye ;) mizmoFedora Project (+fedoraproject:matrix.org) later Mmleonova Ssadin: there should only be 2 that have it rather than make this a bounty (which is a lot of work for me and i dont have time right now) lets just tag it newbie S sadin (IRC) mizmo sure, makes sense just trying to help address the issue you mentioned about newbies having trouble finding work mizmoFedora Project (+fedoraproject:matrix.org) all right im going to close th emetting out thanks for coming :) #endmeeting S sadin (IRC) bye!
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