Re: Wallpapers included by default in Fedora Workstation

[Ryan Lerch <rlerch@xxxxxxxxxx>]

Okies, I have added the wallpapers i suggested here:

https://docs.pagure.org/fedora-supplemental-wallpapers-index/picks.html

Into the package just so i could test it, and there is a scratch build here.

WE are going to have to rush to be able to get this sorted before Freeze, but if we can get a concensus on which wallpapers to add, i can respin the package, and try to get it in there.

there is a scratchbuild of the package in progress here:

https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=19509039

cheers,

ryanlerch

On Mon, May 8, 2017 at 11:17 PM, Ryan Lerch <rlerch@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

On Tue, May 2, 2017 at 3:53 PM, Ryan Lerch <rlerch@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

On Tue, May 2, 2017 at 3:51 PM, Ryan Lerch <rlerch@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

On Thu, Apr 27, 2017 at 4:30 PM, S.Kemter <sirko.kemter@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Hi,

Just some notes

@zoltan we definitely need no new wallpaper package, we have to many different packages already

@matt there is no problem, you just need to know the package name you can install older ones still in newer releases.

at both what Ryan has reached with the WG is already a huge step forward. We had several attempts to make our supplemental wallpaper better visible. Currently they are not shown in the workingstation by default its the old ones from GNOME which is always shown there. You might also think that we not just deliver GNOME as other DE as well so you have a lot of people sitting on the table when you want to reach a change.

So what we not need are new ideas like add older default wallpaper, what we need is a consens with all the DE people not thinking to much as KDE, XFCE or whatever environment as more thinking, whats the best for Fedora.

The optimum would be that each release the package is shown in the wallpaper settings but get the GNOME people agree to that is the hard part, so Ryans achievement is already a step forward in the right direction. So I am happy with it.

The question is more how we select now the 15, just take the best 3 of last 5 releases or make a new election? To make an election and get it packaged so we can have that for F26, its just a short time. So working on that and not come up with new ideas is more helpful

IMHO, the best way would be for the members of the design team to pick the set. This way we can choose the highest quality images, as well as ensuring we have a good range of image types, and colors. We don't want to have all mountain vistas, or ship a set were all the images are primarily the same color.

cheers,

ryanlerch

Just a heads up too,

I have created a quick set of images that we might be able to use as a starting off point:

https://docs.pagure.org/fedora-supplemental-wallpapers-index/picks.html

Additionally, I have the packaging all set up and ready to go if and when we decide to do this

https://pagure.io/fedora-design/fedora-workstation-backgrounds

--ryanlerch

Any thoughts on this? It would be awesome to get this into the 26 Beta.

--ryanlerch

 

 

 

br gnokii

Am 27.04.2017 um 07:28 schrieb Ryan Lerch:

On Thu, Apr 27, 2017 at 3:08 AM, Matthew Miller <mattdm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

On Wed, Apr 26, 2017 at 11:41:05AM +1000, Ryan Lerch wrote:
>    3. Remove all the other wallpapers we currently ship and create a new
>    set of the 15 wallpapers from the previous Fedora supplemental wallpapers.


What about also including a few of the non-supplimental wallpapers from
previous releases? I personally really like F24 and F21, and the F17
fireworks seem almost iconic. Plus, FC5 (although the 3d-button look on
the logo seems dated.)

IMHO, these wallpapers are tied to the branding of each individual release, so

I would be worried about including these as the standard wallpapers on a default

install. The supplemental wallpapers don't really have the same connection to

an individual release, and since we have a large back catalog of approved, properly

licenced images, this seemed like a good place to base our search on.

One thing to investigate here, however, is should we look into better ways of exposing

the wallpapers packaged in Fedora to the user? Currently, these wallpapers are not shown

in Software, and the only way to get them is to know the correct package name / fedora release

name to install, and use DNF. They aren't really "software", so not sure if they fit in the Software

app, although we do have Fonts in there, but the experience provided there for searching

for fonts can feel a bit clunky at times too.

cheers,
ryanlerch

 

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