[Fwd: Re: [Fwd: First evaluations after testing Anaconda and Gnome installations F19 TC3]]

Onyeibo Oku <twohot@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> · Tue, 09 Apr 2013 19:37:56 +0100

Hope I didn't go wrong here, but here's the update on this topic from my
end.
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To: Onyeibo Oku <twohot@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [Fwd:  First evaluations after testing Anaconda and Gnome installations F19 TC3]
From: Leslie S Satenstein <lsatenstein@xxxxxxxxx>
Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2013 11:24:11 -0700 (PDT)
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You are right, I like controversy and you like arrogance. You also live in a closed box. End-users just sit back and complain is your attitude.  Conversation is over.

bye

Regards  
 Leslie
 Mr. Leslie Satenstein
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and tomorrow will be even better.
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--- On Tue, 4/9/13, Onyeibo Oku <twohot@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

From: Onyeibo Oku <twohot@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [Fwd:  First evaluations after testing Anaconda and Gnome installations F19 TC3]
To: "Leslie S Satenstein" <lsatenstein@xxxxxxxxx>
Date: Tuesday, April 9, 2013, 1:54 PM

You strike me as one who is hungry for controversy. The way things work
in Fedora is pretty straightforward.  If you feel like there is a gap in
the production line, then fill in the gap yourself.  If you can't do
that, keep quiet.  You only talk
 when you have made contributions
towards solving the problem and those contributions were not given a
fair trial

Everything about Gnome-Shell is handled by Gnome Developers, they have a
mailing list and they also have their own design-team.  Anaconda is
handled by UX guys and they have a mailing list (although you can
discuss bits of Anaconda in the Fedora Design-team list since UX is
design-oriented).  If your observations have nothing to do with
"art" ... that is, the use of colours, shapes, lines and space to define
visual elements like icons, text, dialogue (which you may still need to
pass through gnome-designers) etc, then you are complaining to the wrong
people.

Fedora uses Gnome DE, they didn't create the DE ... they only use it.
At best they tweak it but when you want something serious changed, you
need to visit the Gnome guys instead.  Start with this:

gnome-shell-list@xxxxxxxxx

I hope that is clearer now

Regards
Onyeibo

On Tue, 2013-04-09 at 09:04 -0700, Leslie S Satenstein wrote:
> Hi Onyeibo
> 
> Every group pointed to the other group. Wow, It seems that the
> end-user requires an ombudsman, who will steer the comments to the
> appropriate group.  I get the impression developers are putting in
> 50-60 hour work weeks and have no time to read or respond to end-user
> feedback.
> 
> Regards 
> 
>  Leslie
> 
> Mr. Leslie Satenstein
> 50 years in Information Technology and going strong.
> Yesterday was a good day, today is a better day,
> and tomorrow will be even better.
> mailto:lsatenstein@xxxxxxxxx
> alternative: leslie.satenstein@xxxxxxxxx 
> SENT FROM MY OPEN SOURCE LINUX SYSTEM.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --- On Thu, 4/4/13, Onyeibo Oku <onyeibo@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>         
>         From: Onyeibo Oku <onyeibo@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>         Subject: [Fwd:  First evaluations after testing
>         Anaconda and Gnome installations F19 TC3]
>         To: lsatenstein@xxxxxxxxx
>         Date: Thursday, April 4, 2013, 3:35 AM
>         
>         
>         

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