Hello mythcat, I mean you said on meeting that you need render machine so i can always help you with rendering if you need my help..and also you said you wanted to share a blend file so i thought you can use pasteall but you already know that ...i work with both blender3d will help you with objects if you need help just mail me details.. regards, Jay (rockworldmi) _______________________________________________ design-team mailing list design-team@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/design-team