Hey everybody! Thanks for another meeting! Here's the minutes: Minutes: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-design/2010-12-14/fedora-design.2010-12-14-19.01.html Minutes (text): http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-design/2010-12-14/fedora-design.2010-12-14-19.01.txt Log: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-design/2010-12-14/fedora-design.2010-12-14-19.01.log.html I also posted them to our wiki page here: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Design#Latest_Meeting_Minutes Mo Summary: Topic: Fedora 15 supplemental wallpapers ======================================== We're in good shape here. No new submissions since last week, but Mizmo sent out a dent and a tweet to solict more interest and it was redented and retweeted several times. Topic: Fedora RPG ================= Mizmo is going to be putting together some more RPG mockups for FUDcon Tempe in late January, so she'll be working on those after the holiday break. If anyone wants to join her she'll send out an email to the list when she starts and hang out in our IRC channel. Topic: FUDcon Tempe T-shirt design status update ================================================ Emichan worked on a second concept involving a block-print style desert landscape, but she decided it wasn't as strong as the original concept so she's decided to stick with that one. Robyn has contacted a company called BrandX in Tempe (http://brandxstore.com) to have the shirts made locally. Their turnaround is 8 biz days from initial order to shipping. They need a mockup to provide Robyn with a $$ quote. ACTION: Emichan to send comp to Robyn for BrandX tshirt quote Topic: Fedora 15 default wallpaper ================================== So this was a tough topic and we discussed it for at an hour. The summary is that GNOME 3 is likely our most prominent Fedora 15 feature and the GNOME 3 team requested of our team that the wallpaper for the GNOME desktop in Fedora 15 should be the upstream GNOME wallpaper for F15 only, as sort of a special-edition / celebrating the first distro release of GNOME 3. The complication here is that they requested the GNOME wallpaper shouldn't be used by default by other spins because they would like a unique, recognizable brand for GNOME. The GNOME spin is the default download on our website, so this would result in us not having full Fedora branding in our default download nor across our offerings. The GNOME team has a challenge in that they would like to set a recognizable GNOME visual style across distros, but it's hard to do that when distros have distro-specific default wallpapers and brands of their own to promote. The wallpaper in question is viewable here: http://git.gnome.org/browse/gnome-themes-standard/plain/themes/Adwaita/backgrounds/stripes.jpg And its Gimp source is available here: http://gitorious.org/gnome-design/gnome-design/blobs/master/wallpaper/stripes.xcf.bz2 It was designed by Jakub Steiner and Hylke Bons who are two well-respected, FLOSS-software-using GNOME designers. Nicu has already made a blog post on the topic you may wish to look at here: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/2010/12/second-class-citizens.html I want to note that the GNOME team approached us reasonably early now in the Fedora 15 cycle, and made this request of us recognizing that the Board has granted this design team the decision of the default wallpaper for Fedora. While understandably some of you may interpret this as a negative against against our team, I want to make it clear there is no ill-will in this request and rather the GNOME 3 team is dealing with a very challenging branding situation and is hoping for our support. That being said, it does seem from the meeting that many of you are against this request. I've brought the matter to Jared's attention and is currently analyzing the situation, weighing all of our options, and that looking for some sort of win-win compromise for both our teams. In either case, we will need a Fedora wallpaper design for Fedora 15, so we should continue our efforts there. Topic: Fedora 15 sketching session ================================== Here's some of the ideas/notes we came up with during the session: a. http://sumerky.deviantart.com/art/Steampunk-71032811 <= i like the bg texture (mizmo, 20:35:36) b. http://drayok.deviantart.com/art/OneWing-Steampunk-Key-140735134 very lovelock and steampunk (but too noun-y for a wallpaper of course) (mizmo, 20:35:57) c. http://dolphy.deviantart.com/art/Steampunk-Kitty-188687419 i think the BG is cool (mizmo, 20:36:30) d. going the more abstract way, having some geometric pipes james white style with some water waves splashing at it (mizmo, 20:48:34) e. steampunk pipes on one side with water flowing out in a water stripe pattern? (mizmo, 20:48:40) f. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/File:Modified-stripes.jpg#filelinks g. I have this weird association of "love" and roller skating -LOL h. http://rocknro8907.deviantart.com/art/Steampunk-Wings-114717840 i thought maybe the wings could kind of evolve into an abstract stripe kind of thing i. I was thinking of a textured overlay .... it doesn't have to be wood. A good example is the steampunk backround you mentioned but with the stripe statement. That is the concept ... not the wood j. another idea, although not directly stripe-related is the whole gaia-thing http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaia_hypothesis reminds me of Final Fantasy 7's lifestream visually: http://thelifestream.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/lifestream.png k. http://www.webdesignerdepot.com/2010/06/spectacular-fountains-from-around-the-world/ water fountain patterns relates to Lovelock for both the Gaia / lifestream link, and also to the Nevada gamblin' town link...more fountains: * http://image.shutterstock.com/display_pic_with_logo/184111/184111,1233895584,3/stock-photo-yin-yang-rendered-fractal-24491848.jpg * http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3195/2782786333_45c8f15d89_b.jpg * http://image.shutterstock.com/display_pic_with_logo/62870/62870,1148625054,1/stock-photo-blue-yin-yang-tai-chi-abstract-pattern-1361840.jpg * http://www.denverelectricfountain.org/fountain_photographs.php?c=night * http://www.denverelectricfountain.org/fountain_photo.php?p=31 !!! Here's the sketch I came up with: http://fedorapeople.org/groups/designteam/Resources/Fedora%20Release% 20Themes/F15/Concept%20Sketches/mo-sketch-1.png I'd like to recommend everyone as you come up with sketches, to upload them to this directory: http://fedorapeople.org/groups/designteam/Resources/Fedora%20Release% 20Themes/F15/Concept%20Sketches/ You can connect to it using sftp or ssh. SSH to fedorapeople.org, then cd to /srv/groups/designteam/Resources/Fedora Release Themes/F15/Concept Sketches. Thanks, ~m _______________________________________________ design-team mailing list design-team@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/design-team