For the sake of the Scribus practice, I too have been tinkering with disc sleeve designs. I also felt that the copy that's been used for the last few releases could do with some updating and friendlifying. I am indebted to Alexander for posting his designs. Up until a few hours ago, I felt there was something missing from mine, and have shamelessly stolen the overlay and front logo, and moved the front details from the bottom-left over to the right as a consequence of incorporating these elements. Links first, then some reasons for my choices. http://marcstewart.fedorapeople.org/f14/disc-sleeve/fedora14-disc-sleeve-gnome-32.jpg http://marcstewart.fedorapeople.org/f14/disc-sleeve/fedora14-disc-sleeve-kde-64.jpg Sources in the same directory Back: As Jef noted, the copy was a bit technical. I've tried to speak more plainly, limiting jargon to quotations of items easily seen on screen. In contrast to MÃirÃn, I think it's better to have a little too much text on the back (I've actually added an item) than leave some people confused about what to do with the thingâI'd be happy to see suggestions that use fewer words without sacrificing clarity though. But I agree about the need for organisation, and brevity, at least within each item. To that end, I've limited each to two lines, and moved the requirements up with the instructions, which seem to logically go together. This creates some separation between the URLs (which I felt clashed as they have been rather close previously) as well. And, as Jef also mentioned, this arrangement keeps left-aligned and centred blocks separated too. The colour block of Alexander's designs becomes a band in mine, helping to give the Join URL and small print clear homes. Front: The other reason I've used a band rather than a lower-third is to show off as much of the wallpaper as possible. I've repurposed the overlay colourisation too, with Fedora Blue for 32-bit, and Fedora Dark Blue for 64-bit. The different desktops already have logos for recognisability; this colour scheme helps quickly distinguish the architectures too, and avoids having to broaden the palette for the sake of other desktops and spins. Looking back at previous designs, I liked the version number arrangement of the F11 sleeve, so have drafted that in. (Like Misha, I thought "fedora" should precede "14".) A bit more about the copy: I've changed "media" to "CD". To people like my parents, "media" is newspapers and television, a CD is a "CD". I know there's the argument, "But you can burn the image to a DVD too!" However, the instructions on the back say you can use a CD drive. For this to be true, the disc must be a CD. So let's just call it a CD. I'm still not quite satisfied with my copy for the installation DVDs, but I'll be thinking about it through the day, and, in any case, I'll post what I have before the meeting tonight. Marc _______________________________________________ design-team mailing list design-team@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/design-team