Todays Astronomy Picture of the Day from NASA might help on some more ideas http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap100209.html http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/image/1002/sts30nightlaunch_nasa_big.jpg http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-aDSv494v4 Anyway hope this helps. -- Stephen J Smoogen. Ah, but a man's reach should exceed his grasp. Or what's a heaven for? -- Robert Browning _______________________________________________ design-team mailing list design-team@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/design-team