Máirín Duffy wrote:
RazGriz wrote:
Hi, i think that the problem is not inside the product *(fedora) but
inside some minds...there are some people inside the project fedora
*(here in my country i can see it every day in some ambassadors and
other members of the project), they just say : "Fedora is not for
everyone cause we don't wanna be baby seeter of nuggets, or help then
to play mp3 or install a proprietary driver etc". We need bring
"Re-humanizer" the project if of course we want people that use ubuntu
today.
Well, I for one cannot comprehend this: I personally know people who are
Fedora Ambassadors but use Ubuntu on their personal computers (thats is,
when not using Windows). Why? Why aren't they Ubuntu Ambassadors instead?
But this is orthogonal to our topic.
First of all, you told me that you think the problem is not in the
product, but instead the problem is in people's minds. Then you talked
about how Fedora does not have mp3 patents and proprietary drivers. The
omissions of that software are very much fundamental to Fedora's purpose
and philosophy, and they are very much a part of what Fedora *IS*. We
won't be adding that software anytime soon.
The sad fact is that *a lot* of people do not care about the *freedom*
part. They just want something *gratis*. Here is a good read about this:
http://itmanagement.earthweb.com/osrc/article.php/3733286
I really would prefer us to *not* talk about changing what Fedora is
here. I would rather we talk about how we can best market Fedora as it is.
Having a truly free operating system really is not mutually exclusive
with having a usable operating system. There is nothing about being free
and doing the right thing that means life must be hard. People perceive
it as being such. How can we change people's perceptions of Fedora's
freedom so that they are less afraid of it?
But we also should understand there are some thing we cannot have (in
the near future or ever). But those can be seen as niches.
Again, let's not change Fedora, please!
+1
Second, in an odd way of thinking.... This has already happened, sort
of. The Fedora Art Studio spin does use that is found within the
distribution to build something that you here have coined
'fedoraLife'.
The Art Studio spin is currently on hold. Help needed.
Well, i wanna help with it, i have a lot of experience with computer
graphics made with free software , how i can help? is there a link to
the sub project? can i bring more people to help?
The most needed thing right now is packaging.
Duvelle provided a link earlier in the thread. I will re-post it:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/ArtTeamProjects/FedoraArtStudio
Duvelle, Raz, Mo: let's take this on the Art list, where is the right
place...
I would love if you would be willing to help with this spin. I built a
ks file for the spin a long time ago, it probably sucks and needs some
modifications, but it is here:
https://fedoraproject.org/w/uploads/b/b7/Artwork_ArtTeamProjects_FedoraArtStudio_artstudio-ks-oct_6_2007.cfg
You will also need to add the following packages to it:
* gimp-lqr-plugin
* gimp-resynthesizer
* ufraw-gimp
* nip2
* GREYCstoration-gimp
* mathmap
We could also use some help getting fonts packaged up for Fedora so they
can be included in the Art Studio spin. There is a list of
appropriately-licensed fonts only needing packagers here:
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/Fonts/Triaging/Pipeline/WishList
You can absolutely bring more people to help - we need all the help we
can get!
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