Re: Nodoka suggestions for Fedora 10

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2008/4/3, Mark <markg85@xxxxxxxxx>:
> 2008/4/3, Gian Paolo Mureddu <gmureddu@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>:
>
> > Mark escribió:
>  >
>  > > Hey,
>  > >
>  > > i'm having some suggestions for nodoka in the next fedora version.
>  > > My general idea for fedora is to have the themes polished in F10.
>  > > Nodoka can do a lot to get that done.
>  > >
>  > > Oke for the first one.
>  > > When you hover a button or anything that's nodoka controlled like the
>  > > buttons: minimize, maximize and close. When you put your mouse on one
>  > > of them the image behind it is instantly changing to the hover state
>  > > (or something like it). My suggestion would be to make a effect of it.
>  > > Fade out the old one and simultaneously fade in the new image so that
>  > > you get some nice effects there. Also do this for every other thing
>  > > that has another state when it's selected, hovered etc.
>  > >
>  > >
>  >
>  >  That is very interesting. One thing I've noticed, though, and since
>  > Metacity allows for that, is that if you change the order of the buttons
>  > (using gconf-editor), the properties of the buttons will be inherited by the
>  > new elements in their place. For example, I like to have the close and
>  > minimize buttons together at the upper left corner of the window, and the
>  > menu and maximize buttons on the right corner. The problem with the current
>  > implementation of the theme is that it "locks" the buttons to the right
>  > corner of the window and even though all effects are "inherited" when they
>  > are changed, the "highlight" around the buttons persists and is locked to
>  > the buttons on the right hand corner[1]. Maybe the first step would be to
>  > lock the highlight border to the properties of the buttons instead of a
>  > location in the title bar? (is this even possible in GTK? [or any other
>  > toolkit for that matter?])
>  >
>  >
>  > > The second one is something i've requested before but never got in.
>  > > Theme the taskbar! fully theme it, not just change the colour but
>  > > really give it a theme. As far as i know this has never been done in
>  > > fedora. I will try to make a mockup of it sometime soon.
>  > >
>  > >
>  >
>  >  This sounds VERY interesting indeed... It also opens all sorts of
>  > possibilities for themes... Like having both the lower and upper panes have
>  > different colors/combinations/highlights, etc. Make launcher icons stand out
>  > as buttons, give a glossy look (or not), etc. And have the lower panel (with
>  > the "Show Desktop", "Window List" "Recycle Bin" and "Desktop Pager" applets)
>  > a completely different, but complementary look than that of the upper panel.
>  > Have the Window List applet have its own properties so that (as some people
>  > do) if a user deletes one of the panels (to reclaim desktop pace, for
>  > instance) and moves the Window List to "the other" panel, these properties
>  > are retained and what not.
>  >
>
> I hope that by "glossy look" of the launcher buttons you don't mean to
>  have them with another background than the panel background! that
>  would not have my preference to say the least. But having it glossy
>  when hovering (like in vista/xp) is a nice idea to have!
>
> >
>  > > Third.
>  > > A while back i made a mockup of a themed notification message. the
>  > > current one looks kinda plain. The one i had made was one you all
>  > > seemed to like one way or the other but never got implemented. I will
>  > > try to find that mockup and post it again to see if this could find
>  > > it's way in Fedora 10.
>  > >
>  > >
>  >
>  >  I don't remember seeing this one, and I would very much like to see it!
>
>
> Look here later this day in probably about 4 hours.

Found it back in the archives (MageFedoraTheme)
this one gives a nice impression on what i thought at that time would
look nice for notification balloons.
http://img359.imageshack.us/img359/1475/kdebattlewip7ke4.png

But NOW.. no. that's not really what i would like to see now in
fedora.. now i would go for smaller color changes and probably less
rounded (rounded but just a few pixels).. i can do it so much better
now..

stay tuned for updates on this with the taskbar + the tooltips

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