RE: Fedora-art-list Digest, Vol 22, Issue 42

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Hi all,

I have been signed up to help for some time, but never did find out who to email and such so I hope no one minds me throwing in a "hello" here.  My name is Paul and I don't really know where to begin. For one, I don't have Fedora right now since my hard drive took a powder and Fedora with it. Anyway, I do a lot of graphics with Gimp and have had numerous jobs, won contests, and even offered a teaching job at our local college to teach Graphics with Gimp. So, being I would like to help out in any way I can, if there is anything, opinion, CG work, etc... that I can do, I would be glad to help.
Thanks all,

Paul
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> Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2008 19:22:22 -0500
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> 1. Re: A Thought About F9 Artwork (Valent Turkovic)
> 2. Re: A Thought About F9 Artwork (Valent Turkovic)
> 3. Re: Echo: "package-x-generic" attempt 10 (Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek)
> 4. Re: [Echo] set of Multimedia-volume-control icons
> (Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek)
> 5. Re: [Echo] set of Multimedia-volume-control icons
> (Luya Tshimbalanga)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2008 19:24:34 +0100
> From: "Valent Turkovic" <valent.turkovic@xxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: A Thought About F9 Artwork
> To: "Discussions about the artwork included with Fedora, including
> icons, themes, and wallpapers." <fedora-art-list@xxxxxxxxxx>
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> Martin Sourada wrote:
>
> On Wed, 2008-01-09 at 17:49 +0100, Valent Turkovic wrote:
>
> Steven Garrity wrote:
> Please look these two screenshots:
> http://bayimg.com/MAIAIaaBLhttp://bayimg.com/MAiagaABL
>
> One is FC6 and other is F8.
>
> Can you make the difference. The differences are subtle, too subtle and
> too bland IMHO. I would love to see Fedora 9 get the gtk theme it deserves.
>
> So slowing down design really sound bad to me.
>
> Valent.
>
>
>
> I saw these two quite long quite a long ago and you were told, that the
> difference is obvious, though subtle.
>
> As for the Fedora 9 gtk theme. So far this [1] seems what will be in
> Fedora 9, although there is still room for improvement. But why don't
> you come up with something awesome yourself? We are all doing our best
> while you seem to just rant about how things would be better.
>
> Because I have no actual creative talent but as I said in my email I have
> an critic eye and I have been volonteering as a critic for my friends and
> family for over 10 years - they are photographers, designers, 3d modelers
> and artists and I'm really respected for my constructive criticism.
>
> I can't create a new gtk theme but I can say to you if one sucks or or if it
> rocks.
>
> You can look for yourself for some ideas:
> http://browse.deviantart.com/customization/skins/linuxutil/gnome/gtk2/?order=9&alltime=yes
> http://www.gnome-look.org/index.php?xsortmode=down&page=0&xcontentmode=100
>
> There are lots of great themes.
>
> I don't work for fedora ArtTeam but I'm a long time fedora desktop user and
> I would love to see some improvements in how fedora looks. I know that lot
> of people work hard and I really appreciate it, and I have seen what great
> designs they have done (
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> Message: 2
> Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2008 19:58:31 +0100
> From: Valent Turkovic <valent.turkovic@xxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: A Thought About F9 Artwork
> To: "Discussions about the artwork included with Fedora, including
> icons, themes, and wallpapers." <fedora-art-list@xxxxxxxxxx>
> Message-ID: <478A5F57.5070703@xxxxxxxxx>
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> Máirín Duffy wrote:
> > Hi Valent,
> >
> > Valent Turkovic wrote:
> >> Máirín Duffy wrote:
> >>> Whenever we try anything that is !blue, we get a whole lot of negative
> >>> feedback. People like to look at the colors far more symbolically than
> >>> they should I think.
> >>>
> >>> ~m
> >>>
> >>
> >> I don't like opensuse in particular but they have made a break from
> >> blue in latest release - now its green, and it looks great! I would
> >> love to see Fedora !blue for at least one release - it would be
> >> refreshing.
> >
> > Everyone has their own personal tastes and opinions on the artwork.
> > Unfortunately, only a very small percentage of those folks actually
> > contribute to the artwork. If you would like to truly influence the
> > artwork though, you will need to take a more active, participatory role
> > on the art team.
>
> It have the ability to bring some really talented people to fedora and
> they will contribute, but they use proprietary tools (photoshop and the
> like). Is that forbidden to use non OSS apps in making fedora themes? I
> heard that before in some post but I wasn't sure so please clarify.
>
> > This list is, for the most part, for the art team members to coordinate
> > and discuss contributions to the artwork. While we do like hearing
> > feedback from a variety of users, please understand that can cannot
> > please everyone nor should it be expected that we cater to any
> > particular piece of feedback we receive. In the past we have been asked
> > to try colors other than blue and were met with a lot of negative
> > feedback. I do not know if it is worth another try.
>
> I saw some older posts... I can't believe what people said about purple
> color. I was also amazed to hear that as did you from what I saw.
>
> > If you have a particular concept or design that you would like to mock
> > up and share with us that does not use the color blue, I am sure we
> > would all be interested in seeing it, but please do not expect that
> > someone will do it for you just because you mentioned it here.
> >
> > ~m
>
>
> Sure. Thank you.
>
> Valent.
>
>
>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2008 20:07:33 +0100
> From: "Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek" <jakub.rusinek@xxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: Echo: "package-x-generic" attempt 10
> To: "Discussions about the artwork included with Fedora, including
> icons, themes, and wallpapers." <fedora-art-list@xxxxxxxxxx>
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> 2008/1/13, Mark <markg85@xxxxxxxxx>:
> >
> > 2008/1/13, Martin Sourada <martin.sourada@xxxxxxxxx>:
> > >
> > > On Sun, 2008-01-13 at 15:53 +0100, Mark wrote:
> > > > the preferences-desktop icon is about as bright as this one is now.
> > > > So i think it fits perfectly.
> > > >
> > > Not at all (IMO). It's not only about how bright it physically is, but
> > > also how bright it feels, and in that case you need to compare it with
> > > icons that will be together with it. I created an image where I compare
> > > folder-network (since it has both globe which is used for more mimetypes
> > > and a folder which is quite often seen in nautilus), your
> > > package-x-generic and the one from guidelines. You can compare for
> > > yourself. I think you should see that your package looks odd among the
> > > other two (while good by itself).
> > >
> > > Solution offers itself. Make it darker and make the colours more
> > > vibrant, or take the one from guidelines and work a little on the
> > > gradients if you think it is too dark.
> > >
> > > Martin
> >
> > i could redo all the folder icons in the same colors as this box of
> > mine ^_^ than it will fit in echo.
> > but seriously. the current package icon is way to dark.. and if you
> > make the comparison than please do it with the new globe you made (the
> > one with the stars(?) in it) than it might fit better.
> >
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> Leave the folders alone! They're alive, full of live, colors.
> Your box looks dead :> .
>
> --
> Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek
> http://liviopl.jogger.pl/
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> Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2008 20:09:07 +0100
> From: "Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek" <jakub.rusinek@xxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: [Echo] set of Multimedia-volume-control icons
> To: "Discussions about the artwork included with Fedora, including
> icons, themes, and wallpapers." <fedora-art-list@xxxxxxxxxx>
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> 2008/1/13, Mark <markg85@xxxxxxxxx>:
> >
> > 2008/1/13, Martin Sourada <martin.sourada@xxxxxxxxx>:
> > >
> > > On Sun, 2008-01-13 at 15:48 +0100, Mark wrote:
> > > This one is great!
> > >
> > > Martin
> >
> > Thanx Martin!
> > you don't often say that for icons (that i've made).
> >
> > Mark.
> >
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> It's good to critique. After receiving critique you can make better art.
>
> --
> Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek
> http://liviopl.jogger.pl/
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> Message: 5
> Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2008 16:21:39 -0800
> From: Luya Tshimbalanga <luya_tfz@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: [Echo] set of Multimedia-volume-control icons
> To: "Discussions about the artwork included with Fedora, including
> icons, themes, and wallpapers." <fedora-art-list@xxxxxxxxxx>
> Message-ID: <478AAB13.2060006@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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> Pushed into the trunk.
> I have grabbed some screenshot for the preview.
>
> Luya
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