GDM is already themed. Look at %{_bindir}/gdmsetup. Dnia 21-11-2007, śro o godzinie 18:08 +0100, David Nielsen pisze: > On Wed, 2007-11-21 at 08:13 -0500, Matthias Clasen wrote: > > On Wed, 2007-11-21 at 13:39 +0100, Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek wrote: > > > I think it's not hard to create professional looking icon theme. > > > Try Echo with Infinity theme - this is proffesional? I don't think so. > > > > If it is not hard, why do you do it and come back when you have > > something to show ? > > yum install tango-icon-theme, there's something to show. > > Shall I start filing bugs on all the components in Fedora that currently > does not accept an easy theme change such as rhgb, gdm, anaconda and so > on (preferredly something like replacing the fedora-artwork package or a > similar option). I believe that was the proposed solution we got from > the art team the last time, yet no work has gone into enabling said > choice of the user. A choice which will be needed since echo has poor > accessibility - However this was claimed as not being a target (a > complete understandable and acceptable design decision if it wasn't for > the fact that the aim is to be our default iconset), despite the rest of > the distro aiming for good defaults for handicapped people. Advancements > such as PolicyKit are being integrate which will enable using a screen > reader on applications which would normally not work, a specific goal on > moral grounds as pointed out by davidz in his linux.conf.au 2007 talk > "Gluing a desktop and a kernel together[1]. > > Why should our artwork go against such a goal, being handicapped myself > and having worked extensively which people suffering from a wide range > impairments I can honestly say this group of users have very little > choice currently not to mention they are tied to proprietary platforms. > > Fedora has a clear market opening if we want it, furthermore with laws > being the way they are in most countries we cannot be used in government > deployments unless we are accessible (Section 508 in the US e.g.). > > I have mainly been a pain about this because I think it's a moral > obligation to ensure that everyone has the option to use Fedora and I > believe the default should strive for a mix of good looks and good > accessibility - Tango has that and it has good adoption upstream > (OpenOffice, GIMP, Jokosher.. many projects default to using Tango > icons). > > The only way to offer Echo, Tango and everything else which is on the > table would be to easily allow theme changes for the entire system, not > just session icons and select a sensible default - this work has not > been done, seeing as the artwork team wants Echo and originally offered > this solution I assumed they would be filing the bugs - this however > does not seem to be the case. > > This is not about my personal opinion on the look of Echo, it's about > being able to offer the choice of freedom to a group of people who > currently has none and expanding our potential userbase. > > Untill you have seen the change of life quality the ability to > communicate and work does to a person who is paralysed from the neck > down, I doubt anyone will truly understand. I happen to have seen this, > an accessible computer gave this person the option to work 10-15 hours a > week - the change in his life cannot be expressed. I would like to see > us offer that without the hefty pricetag and exclusion from common > applications they currently have. I would like this kind of profound > change to be part of what we help give to the world. I think it starts > with addressing the most widespread impairments.. eye sight (degraded > eye sight, color blindness, etc.). Much of that can be done with good > defaults, some requires the option of having e.g. high contrast icons > (colorblindness can now been aided by compiz plugins - I'm unsure of the > current state of tie in to the accessibility settings). > > Additionally an option to change the system unified look would make > branding for special deployment as well as spins much nicer. > > Thank you for your time, > David Nielsen > > [1] > http://mirror.linux.org.au/pub/linux.conf.au/2007/video/talks/220.ogg > (about 24 mins into the video) > http://mirror.linux.org.au/pub/linux.conf.au/2007/video/talks/220.pdf > (as well as page 49 in the slideshow pdf file) > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list@xxxxxxxxxx > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list -- (o_ Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek //\ Fedora Project || | V_/_ http://liviopl.jogger.pl/
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