If were naming the bad ones.. ^_^ here is a list: https://hosted.fedoraproject.org/projects/echo-icon-theme/wiki/IconThemeStatus In Actions: BAD = Full first, second and third row. In the fourth row only document-save and document-save-as are bad Than i notice some shadow issues.. some shadows are darker than others.. example: go-bottom lighter than go-last Than the media-record icon.. that's just ugly. and there are a dozen icons on that page that aren't "isometric at all" And to continue the ugly ones: system-log-out zoom-* (extremely ugly) system-shutdown and system-standby (those 2 look incomplete...) accessories-text-editor (to dark) preferences-desktop-screensaver (to dark) preferences-desktop-wallpaper (to dark) system-software-update (doesn't fit ECHO at all!!) internet-mail (sorry but it looks strange and too dark take something like [1] or [2]) preferences-desktop-pda (looks like a candy... alternative [3] and [4]) In the category: "Category" i only dislike the following 2: applications-development (to dark) applications-engineering (to dark) applications-other (to dark) preferences-other (stupid non echo box) applications-other (stupid non echo box) preferences-system (looks like candy again) And for just some others: text-html (i ABSOLUTELY hate that icon. i see it with all my php files and it doesn't fit the rest of the default fedora theme at all.. nor does it fit the echo theme. it's again to dark and to much shadow on the paper.) package-x-generic (like said before.. it just doesn't fit the echo theme and it's to dark) Oke about all the echo stuff in general. it seems like the echo icon theme consists of 2 themes. one light and one dark(er). Fedora always seemed to be more on the darker side but Fedora 8 seems to be a light colored os. So to make it fit nicely i thing the icons should be light colored as well. Echo (in it's current state) also has some consistency issues.. look at the shadows in these pictures [5] and [6]. now what shadow is the one that should be used? And last but not least. I'm sorry if i insulted anyone with my critics on some icons. I would also like to help out a little with those icons.. i will see what i can do (playing with inkscape now) [1] http://xxfiredragonxx.deviantart.com/art/3D-mail-icon-26213364 [2] http://justine-r.deviantart.com/art/NIN-Stamps-27780748 [3] http://diciembre7.deviantart.com/art/Gray-Pocket-38029408 [4] http://lightme.deviantart.com/art/tungsten-set-26424392 [5] http://git.fedoraproject.org/?p=hosted/echo-icon-theme;a=blob_plain;f=trunk/Echo/48x48/mimetypes/image-x-generic.png;hb=HEAD [6] http://git.fedoraproject.org/?p=hosted/echo-icon-theme;a=blob_plain;f=trunk/Echo/48x48/mimetypes/audio-x-generic.png;hb=HEAD _______________________________________________ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@xxxxxxxxxx http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list