I have used your Nodoka rpms for a day now, and have to say that the theme looks pretty reasonable and is nice to use. Of course, there are some smaller and bigger nits to pick, otherwise I wouldn't write this mail... - I strongly believe the blue prelight color for scrollbars is wrong and needs to go. It is just too distracting for a default theme. A lot of people were happy when we dropped it from Clearlooks. - I also think that the blue background on selected radio and check buttons should be reconsidered, for the same reasons. Since they are much smaller than scrollbars and don't change their color from grey to blue on mouseover, the problem is less prominent here, admittedly. - Button prelighting feels a _bit_ too subtle to me, compared to the strong prelighting in toolbars. This can be seen clearly in an application like gcalctool. - The diffent grays in the background of menus vs the rest of the application looks wrong. - Even though using a dedicated theme engine may give you the most freedom to tweak things, but I'd consider carefully if you really want to maintain a forked codebase long-term, if it is just for recolorable scrollbars and some changed defaults. Alternatively, you could try to get whatever you feel is missing folded back into the murrine engine. Matthias _______________________________________________ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@xxxxxxxxxx http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list