Re: Here are some of my ideas for Fedora 8 and Fedora 9

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On 7/3/07, Paul <subsolar@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Mon, 2007-07-02 at 23:24 +0200, Valent Turkovic wrote:
<SNIP>
>
> * NTFS support during installation
> there should be NTFS support built in to anaconda so that ntfs
> partitions are automatically recognized and added to /etc/fstab - and
> that users are given an option to make them read-only or to be mounted
> in read-write mode.

I don't believe this is possible because of non-free licensing reasons.

Please reconsider your statement.

NTFS is not any longer on forbidden list and also ntfs-3g rpms are
available from default repositories.
also check out this bugzilla entry:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=65749


The reason for Firefox Icon not being used is that you can change your
browser to some other though the preferred applications control panel to
something else. Nothing like clicking on the Firefox icon and firing up
Links!

When default browsing app changes so should the icon. To me this feels
like a roulet - you see an icon but you place bets before clicking it
and then see what app starts after you click it. It should be
unambiguous which apps starts from just looking at the icon. If it is
firefox it should be firefox icon, if it is other some other browser
that the icon should be also changer to it's default icon.

> * Desktop shortcut for joining Fedora IRC (aka "Get Live Help")
> Fedora is about freedom+communication, right? Why not make this
> statement more that just a nice slogan. If you installed saabyon linux
<SNIP>
> in IRC chat room and was on my way after I got quick help. Whis kind
> of help was precious to me and would love to see it in fedora as one
> of it's main features and not just as a slogan.
> screenshot: http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=382063978&size=l

Not a bad idea ... I would give that a +1

I just ripped the idea from Sabayon linux guys... but it is a great one.

> * Desktop folder with examples of what "this linux thing" can do :)
> This is especially important for a live cd versions. Ubuntu has this
<SNIP>
> great value in video presentation and include some great videos on
> Fedora 8 live CD.
> ubuntu examples:
> http://johnny.chadda.se/wp-content/uploads/2006/06/Ubuntu_Examples.png
> and another: http://knowledge76.com/images/thumb/800px-Dapper_examples.png

Not a bad idea, though I would definitely allow not installing them if
you don't want/need the extra cruft.  The ones I've liked are the "We
Are Here" and the fedora "remix" videos.

Of the RedHat ones I always liked "Truth Happens" and "Inevitable"

There are really nice fedora showcase videos, as you listed some, and
they deserver to be presented to new users.

> * a working Burning app for Fedora Gnome desktop
> Put any new user in front of fresh Fedora 7 desktop and ask them to
<SNIP>
> a link
> for "CD Recoder" placed somewhere under "Applications" menu and not
> "Places" menu.

Well the current one works like the windows XP one does ... drop in a
burnable disk and drop files into the folder and click "Write to Disk".
I rather like the way Nautilus one works ... for most stuff it's all
that's needed.

I don't know anybody in Croatia that uses windows default app to burn
disks. Everybody here uses Nero Burning Rom, or at least 80% of
windows users. Maybe that is a local thing, but I believe that it is
also the case in the rest of the Europe and the US.
One thing also that I have observed is that users don't insert blank
cd/dvd first. First thing they do is to look for the burning app,
compile the list of files for burning and only then they insert bland
cd or dvd.

If you have some other experience with new users please share it with
us. It is easy to test this. Put some folder on the desktop and say to
your coworker, sister, brother or a friend to burn it to a blank CD
and watch what they do. Did you test for do this? I did and this is my
experience. That is why we need a better and more usable way to burn
data under fedora gnome desktop.


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