On Thu, 2007-02-22 at 08:46 +0200, Nicu Buculei wrote: > The entire process of "rounds" is not needed anymore as "we've had to > concede the default release theme work to the Desktop group inside Red Hat". Well, the thing is that someone made promises ("default theme") to the participants on this list and these promises weren't kept for reasons well explained elsewhere. Personally I think the idea of focusing on the default theme and voting for it was wrong from day one. If you recall I made a lot of noise to that effect in December. As Matthias so eloquently put it, the focus should perhaps rather be in creating artwork, get it packaged up and stop worrying about competition induced by what is going to be default. If your art is _that_ good then get it in the distro and let it speak for itself. Mentioned elsewhere we can improve parts of the OS so it's easier to create theme packages. FWIW, I've also observed bad vibes, zealotism in fact (if such a word exists), in seeing how people have been trying to force others to adapt their workflow and choice of tools and accusations of people being "not open source" if someone didn't caved in and did what the most verbal people on this people felt was right. And it's rude to push your way upon others, at least where I come from. You may want to look at the whole BitKeeper story in the Linux kernel for comparison. The morale is that people have different ways of working and that people are different and have different values. As a community we should respect that people are different. > In fact, and this is a major source of frustration, the process was > silently dropped a long time ago and we were let to know only now. I agree the whole way this was communicated too late. That's bad. In closing, an old commercial for chocolate comes to mind. There's these three guys standing at a table making filled chocolate. Two of the guys keep complaining about everything from how management is treating them and how everything sucks. The third one gets so annoyed that he yells out "Can't we just focus on making chocolate!". I'd like to do the same here - so here's to hoping that all of us can leave this thing behind and start focusing on the artwork. Because that's what it's all about. And I, for one, is dying to see pretty work that I can easily install via yum. Thanks. (Perhaps this comes across as a flame to some people. It's not meant to be. It's just observations from my end. Hope it's somewhat useful though.) David _______________________________________________ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@xxxxxxxxxx http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list