Want to be REAL sure you notice this: http://www.redhat.com/magazine/002dec04/departments/fedora_status/ That's Right CVS is open - you need to run, don't walk, to: http://cvs.fedora.redhat.com It's all exciting - except for the boring parts. Tomorrow morning we will have another exciting item for you but I'm busy typing things and colin is on an airplane and all the other slackers are sleeping or some such nonsense as that so you'll have to wait until the morning. Deal. It's a bright, shiny, new day. But the fog isn't quite lifted yet. -sv