Hi there, I would say this is probably because the normal behaviour when formatting partitions is to reserve 5% of the partition for UID 0 user (root) and GID 0 (root) group. The other partition is very much smaller so the effects of this would be much less noticeable. If you take the number of reserved blocks and multiply them by the size of each block you get just a little more than 30GB. Reserved block count: 8620077 Block size: 4096 The 'Available' column show the amount of space available to non-root users. Does the following command work? Dd if=/dev/zero of=/mnt/sda3/testfile bs=1024 count=10000 This should create a 10MB file called /mnt/sda3/testfile and will let us know if root can still write data to the device. Are these processes running as root? Please could you provide the output of the following commands: cat /etc/redhat-release uname -a ps -ef |egrep "syslog[d]|klog[d]" ll `which klogd` `which syslogd` mount |grep quota Both these processes normally run as root, but it is possible to alter this behaviour so let's check these things. Regards, Colin -----Original Message----- From: ext3-users-bounces@xxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ext3-users-bounces@xxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of peter pilsl Sent: 03 April 2009 02:43 PM To: ext3-users@xxxxxxxxxx Subject: filesystem not full, but 0% available I ran into a curious problem today: Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on /dev/sda3 684172708 652718132 0 100% /mnt/sda3 While there should be 30GB available it shows that its full. The partition is my /-partation and party of my linux (2.6.24.19) thinks that this partition is really full. Syslogd/Klogd are not working and /tmp is mounted as overflow-Ramdisk on boot. I did a forced fsck twice by now, and I booted into a brand new 2.6.28-11-kernel and ext2-tools version 1.41.4 and the same problem. Whats going on here? Anything left I can to debug or solve this problem? Next step is to backup all data on the disk, reformat the partition and restore the files, but actually this is not what I like to do on a regular base :) fdisk does not complain about any harddisk/partition-troubles : # fdisk -l /dev/sda Disk /dev/sda: 750.1 GB, 750156374016 bytes 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 91201 cylinders Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes Disk identifier: 0x00083824 Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System /dev/sda1 * 1 4863 39062016 83 Linux /dev/sda2 4864 5349 3903795 82 Linux swap / Solaris /dev/sda3 5350 91201 689606190 83 Linux and there is a second ext3-partition on the same disk (sda1) which doesnt have any similar problem. Would removing and adding the journal help? (I did this once but I cant remember why and especially how I did it) Any help greatly appretiated, I add the result of tune2fs -l /dev/sda3 at the end of this posting. Maybe it helps. thnx a lot, peter # tune2fs -l /dev/sda3 tune2fs 1.41.4 (27-Jan-2009) Filesystem volume name: <none> Last mounted on: <not available> Filesystem UUID: 3098e1e4-e120-469e-9e7b-41c2bb730b8f Filesystem magic number: 0xEF53 Filesystem revision #: 1 (dynamic) Filesystem features: has_journal ext_attr resize_inode dir_index filetype needs_recovery sparse_super large_file Filesystem flags: signed_directory_hash Default mount options: (none) Filesystem state: clean Errors behavior: Continue Filesystem OS type: Linux Inode count: 43106304 Block count: 172401547 Reserved block count: 8620077 Free blocks: 7863644 Free inodes: 40182634 First block: 0 Block size: 4096 Fragment size: 4096 Reserved GDT blocks: 982 Blocks per group: 32768 Fragments per group: 32768 Inodes per group: 8192 Inode blocks per group: 256 Filesystem created: Wed Jun 18 10:19:42 2008 Last mount time: Fri Apr 3 12:21:20 2009 Last write time: Fri Apr 3 12:21:20 2009 Mount count: 1 Maximum mount count: 34 Last checked: Fri Apr 3 11:09:13 2009 Check interval: 15552000 (6 months) Next check after: Wed Sep 30 11:09:13 2009 Reserved blocks uid: 0 (user root) Reserved blocks gid: 0 (group root) First inode: 11 Inode size: 128 Journal inode: 8 Default directory hash: tea Directory Hash Seed: 3536ec11-ab59-45b4-a4a4-6f1a37901363 Journal backup: inode blocks _______________________________________________ Ext3-users mailing list Ext3-users@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/ext3-users _______________________________________________ Ext3-users mailing list Ext3-users@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/ext3-users