Ric Wheeler wrote: > There are certainly advantages to doing the read ahead (and coalescing) > at the different layers. For example, a file system can do predictive > read ahead across the non-contiguous chunks of a single file while the > IO layer can coalesce multiple write or read commands on the same host > and a multi-ported drive can do the same for multiple hosts. If the file system does predictive read-ahead, and the data is not used, the penalty will be *much* larger if the predictive read-ahead required an extra seek than if it didn't. This is one of the biggest ways that fragmentation hurts performance. The other is if the disk does read-ahead and the next chunk of data in the file was needed, but wasn't read by the disk because of fragmentation. > > We might disagree on how bad the performance hit is, but I'm really > > trying to prevent non-technical people from panicking when they see > > a fragmented filesystem (or file). > I agree - most casual users will never see anything close to a > performance issue until they have completely filled the file system. In > that case, defragmentation will not be the real help. I agree with this as well. The only significant differences I've seen with disk defragmenters were in two cases: 1) The filesystem was close to full, and the defragmenter bought a bit of extra time before something had to be done. 2) The defragmenter was smart enough to move frequenty-accessed files to the fastest parts of the disk, and the disk had a large (20%) difference between its fastest and slowest tracks. Otherwise, it's a miniscule difference. I'd love to see smarter disks with much larger caches so that the OS could say to the disk "here's the data I need now, and here's what I might need later". DS _______________________________________________ Ext3-users mailing list Ext3-users@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/ext3-users