On 28-Feb-2006 Erik Mouw wrote: > On Fri, Feb 24, 2006 at 06:25:20PM -0700, Andreas Dilger wrote: >> On Feb 25, 2006 05:32 +0500, Victor Porton wrote: >> > Linux kernel (as of 2.6.15.4) has the following performance bug: >> > >> > Syncing (fsync() or fdatasync()) files with zero links (deleted files) in not >> > no-op, as it should be. >> > >> > See details, a test C program, and the rationale in the URL below: >> > >> > http://b2e.ex-code.com/index.php/soft/2006/02/24/linux_performance_bug_zero_links_fsync ... > It even makes sense on a single machine with multiple programs still > accessing the same file. You want fsync() and fdatasync() to work > regardless of the amount of links. Not doing so could subtly break > programs. For example: Erik, what you said above is wrong. There are no need to sync this file to disk (except of when we are out of memory). It is enough to sync the buffers in MEMORY. >From man write(2): write writes up to count bytes to the file referenced by the file descriptor fd from the buffer starting at buf. POSIX requires that a read() which can be proved to occur after a write() has returned returns the new data. Note that not all file systems are POSIX con- forming. Accordingly my understanding of the above paragraph there are no need to do any kinds of syncing after write for the purpose of other processes to read updated data. POSIX already warrants it and we do not need fsync() for this. Somebody with kernel programming experience please update the Linux kernel CVS to not uselessly sync files with zero links. I am right, this should.be implemented. (However, this may be made an optional (either config time or run time) feature because my suggestion may sometimes (rarely) cause data loss in DELETED files preventing their undeletion. Indeed I deem that we reasonably could do this feature not optional as it would harm data safety only a little, but your mileage whether to do it optional may vary.) -- Victor Porton (porton@xxxxxxxxxxx) - http://porton.ex-code.com _______________________________________________ Ext3-users@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/ext3-users
