Hi all, and particularly Andrew and Stephen, I recently "upgraded' one of my NFS fileservers from (patched)2.4.18 to 2.4.23-pre7 (in order to resolve a HIMEM related memory pressure problem). Unfortunately I have experienced what appears to be a deadlock. The one I will describe was experienced while running 2.4.23-pre7, though I had a very similar problem in 2.4.22 (but didn't collect enough data to be able to give a useful report at the time). An ext3 filesystem is mounted with data=journal, with an external journal, and accessed mostly via NFS. v1 quotas are enabled. The stacktrace lines below are from a lightly editted "echo t > /proc/sysrq-trigger" output. A substantial number of nfsd threads a waiting to "start a handle": nfsd Call Trace: [sleep_on+75/124] [start_this_handle+205/368] [journal_start+149/196] [ext3_dirty_inode+116/268] [__mark_inode_dirty+50/168] [update_atime+75/80] [do_generic_file_read+1158/1172] [generic_file_read+147/400] [file_read_actor+0/224] [nfsd_read+477/636] [nfsd3_proc_read+295/388] [nfsd_dispatch+207/406] [svc_process+655/1264] [nfsd+566/944] [arch_kernel_thread+40/56] This sleep_on is the one at line 136 of transcation.c(start_this_handle), where it is waiting for t_state to stop being T_LOCKED. The related kjournald is at: kjournald Call Trace: [sleep_on+75/124] [journal_commit_transaction+357/4044] [do_IRQ+221/236] [.text.lock.sched+131/471] [kjournald+326/540] [commit_timeout+0/12] [arch_kernel_thread+40/56] This sleep_on is at line 87 in commit.c (journal_commit_transaction) where it is waiting for t_updates to be 0. At this point, t_state is T_LOCKED, so presumably those nfsd threads above are waiting on kjournald. But what is kjournald really waiting for? My first though was the two nfsd threads in: nfsd Call Trace: [sleep_on+75/124] [log_wait_commit+74/136] [journal_stop+408/432] [journal_force_commit+78/128] [ext3_force_commit+66/112] [ext3_sync_file+128/144] [nfsd_sync_dir+49/72] [nfsd_unlink+455/480] [nfsd_proc_remove+122/140] [nfsd_dispatch+207/406] [svc_process+655/1264] [nfsd+566/944] [arch_kernel_thread+40/56] that are waiting on j_wait_done_commit. However they are doing that from journal_stop *after* journal_stop has decremented t_updates, so it doesn't seem likely that kjournald is waiting on that. Outside of nfsd, there is an rquotad program (locally written, not the standard one) that is : rquotad Call Trace: [sleep_on+75/124] [start_this_handle+205/368] [journal_start+149/196] [ext3_dirty_inode+116/268] [__mark_inode_dirty+50/168] [update_atime+75/80] [do_generic_file_read+1158/1172] [generic_file_read+147/400] [file_read_actor+0/224] [do_get_write_access+1382/1420] [v1_read_dqblk+121/196] [read_dqblk+76/128] [dqget+344/484] [vfs_get_dqblk+21/64] [v1_get_dqblk+39/172] [link_path_walk+2680/2956] [do_compat_quotactl+417/688] [resolve_dev+89/108] [sys_quotactl+166/275] [system_call+51/56] So it is trying to start a transaction to update the atime on the quota file, and has a lock on some quota structures thanks to "read_dqblk". At the same time, "sync" is running: sync Call Trace: [__down+109/208] [__down_failed+8/12] [.text.lock.dquot+73/286] [ext3_sync_dquot+337/462] [vfs_quota_sync+102/372] [sync_dquots_dev+194/260] [fsync_dev+66/128] [sys_sync+7/16] [system_call+51/56] and has started an ext3 transaction (in ext3_sync_dquot) and is trying to get the lock that rquotad has. Presumably the transaction that sync has started is keeping t_updates greater than 0, thus preventing kjournald from progressing, and this preventing anyone else, including rquotad, from starting a new transaction. Hence a deadlock. The incomplete trace that I have from the first time this problem happened also has sync blocks in the same place, and an nfsd thread, rather than rquotad, holding a lock in read_dqblk. I note that ext3_sync_dquot didn't exist in 2.4.18 and does now, so that correlated well with the observation that this problem has been introduced since 2.4.18. If my analysis is correct, I can largely avoid the problem by not running "sync" as much (I currently run it every 5 minutes which isn't needed any longer (it's a long story:-)) but that doesn't fix the bug. My guess is that ext3_sync_dquot doesn't need ext3_journal_start at all but that isn't a well-informed guess. Help appreciated. NeilBrown _______________________________________________ Ext3-users@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/ext3-users