Hi, Marc, Thanks for your help! a "ls -alFs" command shows the difference, Theodore Ts'o talked about it at https://listman.redhat.com/archives/ext3-users/2003-January/msg00008.html. Both File system and "/bin/ls" contains no bugs, my knowledge databse in my mind got lots of ""Bugs" instead. :) vista104 /0 > ls -alF total 211233264 drwxrwxr-t 5 root wheel 4096 Sep 17 23:35 ./ drwxr-xr-x 27 root root 4096 Sep 18 10:10 ../ lrwxrwxrwx 1 root wheel 4 May 16 19:55 .final -> ../0/ -rw-r--r-- 1 andy wheel 26 Aug 20 09:08 ando.idx -rw-r--r-- 1 andy wheel 193750787024 Sep 16 00:05 ando103.idx.2 -rw-r--r-- 1 andy wheel 185336663408 Sep 15 07:55 ando104.idx.2 drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 4096 Jun 25 14:32 export/ drwxrwxr-t 2 root wheel 16384 May 16 19:41 lost+found/ drwxrwxrwt 2 root wheel 4096 Sep 18 04:02 tmp/ vista104 /0 > ls -alFs total 211233264 4 drwxrwxr-t 5 root wheel 4096 Sep 17 23:35 ./ 4 drwxr-xr-x 27 root root 4096 Sep 18 10:10 ../ 0 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root wheel 4 May 16 19:55 .final -> ../0/ 4 -rw-r--r-- 1 andy wheel 26 Aug 20 09:08 ando.idx 30063460 -rw-r--r-- 1 andy wheel 193750787024 Sep 16 00:05 ando103.idx.2 181169768 -rw-r--r-- 1 andy wheel 185336663408 Sep 15 07:55 ando104.idx.2 4 drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 4096 Jun 25 14:32 export/ 16 drwxrwxr-t 2 root wheel 16384 May 16 19:41 lost+found/ 4 drwxrwxrwt 2 root wheel 4096 Sep 18 04:02 tmp/ Could you tell me where can I find more introduction on sparse file? and How it can be used to save disk space? and the impact on file system read/write performance? Thanks. I also looked it up that "SCNR" means "Sorry, Could Not Resist" at http://www.acronymfinder.com/af-query.asp?p=dict&String=exact&Acronym=SCNR. what a shame of me! I don't know a lot useful stuff. *SCNR* ;) --Guolin Cheng -----Original Message----- From: Marc-Christian Petersen [mailto:m.c.p@xxxxxxx] Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2003 1:18 AM To: Guolin Cheng; ext3-users@xxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: BIG Bug on Linux EXT3 file system, or "/bin/ls" problem?? Please Help!!! On Thursday 18 September 2003 10:11, Alex Bligh wrote: > --On 18 September 2003 00:35 -0700 Guolin Cheng <guolin@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > There are two big files above, and the total size is bigger then > > underlying file system size!! What a shame! what a shame that you don't know sparse files *scnr* ;-) -- ciao, Marc _______________________________________________ Ext3-users@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/ext3-users