Can someone suggest anything that will help with the following ext3 performance problem? (It's a Berkeley db issue at bottom, but the ext3 part is worth looking at, I think.) First, two paragraphs of background: A Bayesian spam filter called bogofilter uses Berkeley db to maintain two database files of identical format: one containing words found in spam email and for each word the number of times that word has been seen; the other is the same except the words come from nonspam email. ("Words" is a bit of an oversimplification but that doesn't matter for the present purpose.) One of bogofilter's functions is to update one or the other of these database files with the contents of a new message known to be spam or nonspam; another is to look up the words found in an unclassified message and determine by combination of probabilities whether the message is more likely to be spam or nonspam. The performance problem is this: as the spam database grows (somewhere between 350,000 and a half million records), time taken to classify a message, or to register a new spam, grows nonlinearly; there may be a quantum jump somewhere in that range. This is very noticeable on an ext3 filesystem with data=ordered: to build a list of 170,000 tokens starting from scratch takes 38 seconds on one of my computers, but to build a list of 530,000 tokens starting from scratch takes 24 minutes on the same box. Here's the ext3 part. On another machine I got the following times to build that list of 530,000 tokens, starting by creating empty db files on a partition mounted as: ext2: 3m 41s ext3, data=ordered: 27m 59s ext3, data=journal: 14m 11s ext3, data=writeback: 4m 2s I've discussed this with a senior bogofilter developer, Matthias Andree, who says, "tell them we have many scattered pwrites and one final fsync()." You can see graphs of what's going on on his website: 1. http://mandree.home.pages.de/bogofilter/writes.png -- the writes are pretty much unordered. 2. which pages were accessed how frequently, http://mandree.home.pages.de/bogofilter/frequency.png. Some further findings: o It doesn't matter if the source (mbox) file is on ext3/ordered or ext2; the difference in time is insignificant. o Just processing a message to classify it takes about four times as long if the .db files are on ext3/ordered as it does if the .db files are on ext2. o Dumping the tokens and counts from the database in text form and reloading them into a new database file is not subject to serious performance problems; on the machine that needs 24 minutes to build from a 200-Mb mbox, rebuilding the database from a list of tokens took eight seconds -- this was on ext3 in ordered mode. These data were obtained on machines running linux kernels 2.4.21-pre3-ac4 and -ac5 and 2.4.21-pre4-ac1; kernel 2.4.20-ac2 appears to give similar results though this has not been thorougly tested. Results like those reported were initially obtained with db-3.1.17; the tests shown here used db-4.1.25. More info available on request; tuning hints most gratefully received and tested. -- | G r e g L o u i s | gpg public key: | | http://www.bgl.nu/~glouis | finger greg@bgl.nu | | Help free our mailboxes. Include | | http://wecanstopspam.org in your signature. | _______________________________________________ Ext3-users@redhat.com https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/ext3-users