Re: [alsa-devel] [PATCH RFC V2 0/5] another generic audio hdmi codec proposal

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My approach is the reverse: DRM driver does not need to know anything
about audio side. As ALSA is the client of DRM, seems more logical from
my point of view ...
Now if a generic solution must be found for all video drivers, sure,
your solution is more flexible.
But if i well understood fbdev drivers are no more accepted for upstream
(please correct me if I'm wrong).
So i don't know we have to keep fbdev in picture...


I am not promoting fbdev support. I am merely asking if we want to force
all HDMI drivers to implement a drm_bridge if they want to support audio.

Yes this is a good point... My implementation is based on hypothesis that HDMI drivers are now upstreamed as DRM drivers.

- HDMI encoder driver implementations that do not use DRM bridge
     abstraction do not need add an extra DRM object just to get the
     audio working.

Short comings I see in the current HDMI audio bridge approach:

In its current from the DRM audio bridge abstraction pretends to be a
generic audio abstraction for DRM devices, but the implementation is
quite specific to external HDMI encoders with spdif and/or i2s
interface. There is a lot of HDMI video devices that provide the
digital audio interface (ASoC DAI) directly and there is no need for
anything but dummy codec implementation (if following ASoC
paradigm). Before going forward I think we should at least consider
how this abstraction would serve those devices.
Sorry, but i don't see any difference between both implementations for
this point.In both implementations, ops are called only if defined.
Could you give me name of the drivers you have in mind?

I am not talking about Beaglebone-Black or tda998x here. There are
platforms where video HW provides the digital audio interface for HDMI
audio directly. For instance OMAP4 and OMAP5 (see
sound/soc/omap/omap-hdmi-audio.c and drivers/video/fbdev/omap2/dss/) are
like that.
Not checked in details but seems similar to your approach except ops used by cpu_dai.



Also, I am not entirely happy how the drm_audio_bridge_funcs are used
at the moment. The do not map too well to ASoC DAI callbacks and I do
not see too much point in creating a completely new audio-callback
abstraction, that is sligtly incompatible with ALSA, and then
translating alsa callbacks to these new callbacks. I think the
callbacks should map more or less directly ALSA callbacks.

As API is defined in DRM, it seems more logical to match it with the one
defined for video. From my windows, i didn't see any blocking point to
connect codec callback with this API.
But anyway, this API is not freezed, it could be improved with your help.

The most usual things can be made to work with your API too, but the
translation is not the most efficient one and some features are missing,
for instance muting.
Could be added but is it necessary if trigger is implemented?( see my next comments)

Also, in ALSA side the prepare and trigger
callbacks are meant to be used only for starting and stopping the audio
stream.
Yes but for me, it is required. Otherwise how to manage CPU-DAI master configuration? if stream is stopped, cpu_dai can be stopped as there is no more stream to sent on bus. If no information is sent to HDMI, This generates HDMI codec or protocol issue...
Use startup/shutdown/digital_mute seems not sufficient.

The stream is configured before either one of those are called.
With your API each pause+resume from a video client will reconfigure the
audio from the scratch.
Configuration is sent using pre_enable operation. So no reconfiguration should be re-applied.

Best Regards
Arnaud
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