Am 10.06.2015 um 09:30 schrieb Linus Walleij:
On Tue, Jun 2, 2015 at 12:14 PM, Tomeu Vizoso
<tomeu.vizoso@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On 2 June 2015 at 10:48, Linus Walleij <linus.walleij@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
This is what systemd is doing in userspace for starting services:
ask for your dependencies and wait for them if they are not
there. So drivers ask for resources and wait for them. It also
needs to be abstract, so for example we need to be able to
hang on regulator_get() until the driver is up and providing that
regulator, and as long as everything is in slowpath it should
be OK. (And vice versa mutatis mutandis for clk, gpio, pin
control, interrupts (!) and DMA channels for example.)
I understood above that you propose probing devices in order, but now
you mention that resource getters would block until the dependency is
fulfilled which confuses me because if we are probing in order then
all dependencies would be fulfilled before the device in question gets
probed.
Sorry, the problem space is a bit convoluted so the answers
get a bit convoluted. Maybe I'm thinking aloud and altering the course
of my thoughts as I type...
I guess there can be explicit dependencies for resources like this
patch does, but another way would be for all resource fetch functions
to be instrumented, so that you do not block until you try to take
a resource that is not yet there, e.g.:
regulator_get(...) -> not available, so:
- identify target regulator provider - this will need instrumentation
- probe it
It then turns out the regulator driver is on the i2c bus, so we
need to probe the i2c driver:
- identify target i2c host for the regulator driver - this will need
instrumentation
- probe the i2c host driver
i2c host comes out, probes the regulator driver, regulator driver
probes and then the regulator_get() call returns.
This requires instrumentation on anything providing a resource
to another driver like those I mentioned and a lot of overhead
infrastructure, but I think it's the right approach. However I don't
know if I would ever be able to pull that off myself, I know talk
is cheap and I should show the code instead.
You would end up with the same problem of deadlocks as currently, and
you would still need something ugly like the defered probe brutforce to
avoid them. So what would you win with that instrumentation?
Alexander Holler
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