Re: ACPI/i915: Cannot configure display brightness on Dell Latitude E6440

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Hi,

On 09/23/2014 10:06 PM, Pali Rohár wrote:
Hello,

after big changes in acpi video/i915 code I cannot change display
brightness on my Dell Latitude E6440 with kernel 3.17-rc6. With
kernel 3.13 everything worked fine.

More information about this problem:

For configuring brightness on Dell laptops there are 4 ways:
1) via acpi video driver
2) via dell-laptop driver
3) via i915 drm driver
4) from userspace with special dell SMI call
    (e.g with program dellLcdBrightness from libsmbios package)

Methods 2) and 4) are same, both making special SMI call and Bios
handing this request (just 2 is from kernel and 4 from userspace)

Method 1) via acpi video driver working, but is not perfect.
Driver can be used to change brightness (but only some levels,
probably this depends on acpi/DSDT tables), but cannot be used to
retrieve current brightness (when BIOS/SMI change brightness acpi
driver report old incorrect value). So I prefer dell-laptop
driver instead acpi video.

Method 3) working even with 3.17-rc6 kernel but because that
backlight device exported by i915 is marked as raw, desktop
programs prefer to use other devices.

Moreover it looks like that methods 1) 2) and 4) just forward
request to method 3). So in any cased brightness is changed by
i915 drm driver.

I'm not sure (correct me if I'm wrong!) but I think that intel
i915 drm driver accept changes (file intel_opregion.c) only if
acpi function acpi_video_verify_backlight_support() returns true.

Function acpi_video_verify_backlight_support() returns true iff:
function acpi_video_backlight_support() returns true AND at least
one of these functions returns false:
acpi_osi_is_win8()
acpi_video_use_native_backlight()
backlight_device_registered(BACKLIGHT_RAW)

On my notebook acpi_osi_is_win8() returns true (as is win8
compliant), backlight_device_registered(BACKLIGHT_RAW) returns
true as I'm using intel i915 drm driver with raw backlight device
and acpi_video_use_native_backlight() returns true/false
depending on "video.use_native_backlight" kernel param. Default
is true.

So if I want to have working acpi video driver with display
brightness support I need to boot kernel with param:
"video.use_native_backlight=0". I tested it with kernel 3.17-rc6
and this param really enabled display brightness support via acpi
video driver -- which is good.

Driver dell-laptop creating backligh device for brightness
control only if acpi_video_backlight_support() returns false.
There is complicated condition for it and when kernel is booted
with "video.use_native_backlight=0" that function returns true.

So conclusion is: With current code in kernel 3.17-rc6 it is not
possible to control brightness of display with native driver
dell-laptop on Dell Latitude E6440 (and probably on others
too)!!!

And Because laptop is win8 compliant and you create decision to
use native driver (instead acpi one) it is not possible to
control display brightness without tweeks in kernel cmdline.

As I wrote I would rather to use native dell-laptop driver for
controlling brightness, but it is not possible.

So how to solve this problem?

Quick solution would be to set use_native_backlight false for
some Dell laptops which means, that acpi video will be used and
in this case intel i915 driver will *not* drop backlight change
request.

Another solution could be to disable check in dell_laptop driver
and add use_native_backlight=0 to hooks. But this create two
backlight interfaces (which is not good), but only way (for now)
how to make dell_laptop working again.

Better and maybe only one proper solution would be to teach intel
drm i915 driver to not drop backlight change request for Dell
laptops (or all??). (This allows to work both acpi video and
dell_laptop drivers without any change and with *any* value in
param use_native_backlight). I think that problematic code is in
function asle_set_backlight() in file intel_opregion.c (but I'm
not sure). My idea is that "drop" event function it is caused by
this commit 0b9f7d93ca6109048a4eb06332b666b6e29df4fe (but I'm not
sure).

At least something must be done as I think that I'm not only one
who has Dell laptop and brightness configuration is really
important...

I don't understand your problem, the kernel is selecting the
i915 backlight driver, making that the only one available to
userspace, so the one problem you state with the i915 driver, that
it is "raw" is not an issue, as userspace will pick it when it is
the only one.

Why would you want to use dell-laptop despite the i915 driver
working fine ?

Regards,

Hans
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