Re: [PATCH 1/1] drm/i915: Allow specifying a minimum brightness level for sysfs control.

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Hi,

Thus far our assumption always was that the acpi backlight works better
than the intel native backlight. So everything only uses the intel
backlight if there's no other backlight driver by default.

There are machines, such as the pnv netbook on my desk, on which
intel_backlight does nothing and the only control is through
acpi_backlight0.

That's fine - but on my machine, (at least currently) it's the other way around. acpi_video[0|1] do nothing, while intel_backlight is the only method that works. This sucks (please also see my reply to Daniel), but it's a fact.

Generalising expected behaviour based on one firmware
implementation is fraught with danger.

I'm not sure what you mean here. I interpret the statement as 'user space should treat acpi_videoX and intel_backlight differently'. Is this interpretation correct? If so, how is user space supposed to know how the respective backlight device will behave, as this behaviour might change at any point in time if there's no understanding in how it _should_ behave? What currently happens on my machine is that KDE completely turns off the backlight after the dim timeout, because it assumes that the value 0 will keep the backlight at a readable level (which would be the case if it used acpi_videoX because this behaviour is mandated by the spec there). I first thought of sending a patch to KDE, but I couldn't figure out how KDE is _supposed_ to correctly handle the situation, especially given that the actual sysfs interface used is abstracted away by Xrandr (and chosen by the Intel Xorg driver). With my patch, intel_backlight behaves in a way that roughly matches the behaviour mandated by the ACPI spec.
Do you have a way in mind that allows fixing this in user space?

Thanks,

Danny
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