Hi Hans, Thank you for your advice. I understand that V4L2 M2M driver is recommended for a group including Affine and Pyramid. As for DSPIF, our application SW engineer said that there is another version of firmware to handle neural network. Therefore, DSP can handle not only images, but also some array/list typed data. It would be better to handle DSPIF as a misc device as well as DNN. It is still difficult for me to imagine a whole structure of M2M type driver and corresponding userland application. What do they look like? Is there any existing driver suitable for reference? Let me think about a Pyramid HW which receives a planar (R/G/B as different planes, not in interleaved RGBRGB format) image, and yields 3 planar images. Is it covered by only 1 fd, or multiple fds are required? * A fd for Pyramid driver: * OUTPUT queue for receiving a picture? * OUTPUT or OUTPUT_MPLANE? * Q: Typically, RGB image is handled with single plane buffer in V4L2. RGB images do not have fourcc for multi-planar format (while YUV images do). * How should I explicitly request R/G/B planar buffer in V4L2 semantics? * CAPTURE queue for yielding a picture? * CAPTURE or CAPTURE_MPLANE? * Again: RGB interleaved vs R/G/B planar * Q: If I want to capture multiple images (with different resolution) at a time, how should I do? * Do I have to add other fds for 2nd, 3rd CAPTURE queue? * Or, multiple images can be packed in the same CAPTURE buffer? * Or, multiple images can be placed in CAPTURE_MPLANE buffer ? * Compound control to receive a configuration. Regards, Yuji > -----Original Message----- > From: Hans Verkuil <hverkuil@xxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2022 10:44 PM > To: ishikawa yuji(石川 悠司 ○RDC□AITC○EA開) > <yuji2.ishikawa@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>; robh+dt@xxxxxxxxxx; iwamatsu nobuhiro(岩松 > 信洋 □SWC◯ACT) <nobuhiro1.iwamatsu@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>; > sumit.semwal@xxxxxxxxxx; christian.koenig@xxxxxxx > Cc: linux-arm-kernel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; linux-kernel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; > linux-media@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; dri-devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; > linaro-mm-sig@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/4] Add Toshiba Visconti DNN image processing > accelerator driver > > My apologies for the late reply... > > On 01/06/2022 03:40, yuji2.ishikawa@xxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote: > > Hi Hans, > > > > Thank you for your advice. > > I prepared some description of DNN accelerator and its usage. > > > > #### Handling memory blocks for Visconti5 accelerators > > > > Visconti5 Image-Processing-Accelerators do not have fine grained IOMMU, > as CPU have. > > Therefore, memory region to be passed to the accelerators should be > physically contiguous. > > We use DMA-BUF backed by CMA (Contiguous Memory Allocator) to allocate > memory regions for sharing between CPU/IPAs. > > Originally, in v4.19 based implementation, the ION allocator was used to > allocate DMA-BUF instances. > > For the latest implementation, DMA-BUF HEAPS is used. > > > > Two structure types are used to represent memory region passed to drivers. > > * struct drv_ipa_buffer_info > > * to describe whole DMA-BUF instance > > * struct drv_ipa_addr > > * to describe a memory region in a DMA-BUF instance > > > > for details, see usage sample of each IPA driver > > > > > > #### Image Processing Accelerators overview > > > > Visconti5 SoC has following image processing accererators > > > > * AFFINE: 1 input image, 1 output image; > Affine transform, Homography transform, Polynomial lens distortion, LUT > transform > > * DNN: N input feature vector, N output feature vector; > Deep neural network operation > > * PYRAMID 3 input image, 3 * N output image; > Resize grayscale/color image with N different parameters > > * DSPIF: M input image, N output image; > Various opeations on images > > * HOX: 1 input image (multi ROI), 1 input dictionary1 likelihood/feature > vector; Extended Histogram of Oriented Gradient based pattern matching > > * HAMAT: 2 input feature vectors: 1 output corrdinate vector; > Hamming distance matching for stereo vision > > * FLMAT: 3 input image, N input feature point, N output matched point; > Optical flow matching > > * SMLDB: 1 input image, N input feature point, N output feature vector; > Accelerated-KAZE feature descriptor accelerator > > * STMAT: 2 input image, 1 output disparity image; > Stereo disparity > > It's not really easy to decide what is best. I would say that if both input and > output are images (RGB, YUV, Grayscale), then a V4L2 memory-to-memory > driver is what I would expect to see. > > Where that is not the case, then a more custom approach makes sense. > > In the list above I would put AFFINE, PYRAMID, DSPIF and possible STMAT in > the V4L2 driver group, and the others more as custom drivers. > > I think it also depends on how it is used: if a captured sensor image is typically > passed in for further processing, i.e. it is closely related to the video ISP, then > V4L2 is a reasonable choice. > > A DNN driver, on the other hand, isn't using images at all, so for that something > like this driver makes sense. > > Regards, > > Hans > > > > > see [0] Fig 7.2.1 for block diagram (of prototype chip) > > > > > > #### DNN accelerator overview > > > > DNN accelerator is a proprietary CNN/DCNN processing accelerator > developed by Toshiba. > > Visconti5 SoC has 2 instances of DNN acclerator hardware. > > Users convert existing Caffe/ONNX models to Visconti compatible models > with an offline tool. > > A converted model "Configuration Binary" includes: > > * instruction sequence for given network > > * weight/bias information > > * DMA configuration from/to global memory (for input/output feature) > > > > DNN acccelerator can handle either 1 plane or multiple ROIs at a single call. > > > > see [0] Fig 7.2.2 for block diagram of DNN accelerator > > > > CNN: Convolutional Neural Network > > DCNN: Deep Convolutional Neural Network > > > > > > #### Input / Output > > > > Input image or feature: base type is either of FP16, FP32, INT8, > > UINT8, INT16 Output feature vector: base type is either of FP16, > > FP32, INT8, UINT8, INT16 > > > > Input, Output, Weight, Bias can be placed on global memory and > loaded/stored with DMA within DNN accelerator. > > These data on global memory can be specified as either of: > > * single address to point single data block > > * list of address to point multiple data blocks (i.e. ROIs) > > > > DNN acclerator driver accepts an instance of "struct drv_dnn_descriptor" > which includes addresses of input/output features and a configuration binary. > > > > > > #### Descriptor Builder at userland > > > > Following APIs are provided to build a descriptor instance at userland. > > > > /* defined in drv_dnn_util.h */ > > int32_t drv_DNN_config_descript_init(struct drv_dnn_descriptor *desc, > > struct drv_ipa_buffer_info *buffer, int32_t buffer_num); int32_t > drv_DNN_config_exec_configuration(struct drv_dnn_descriptor *desc, const > void *configuration_binary, > > struct drv_ipa_addr > configuration_binary_addr, struct drv_ipa_addr *src_list, > > struct drv_ipa_addr *dst_list, > int32_t list_num, struct drv_ipa_addr temporary_addr, > > int32_t temporary_size); > > int32_t drv_DNN_config_descript_finalize(struct drv_dnn_descriptor > > *desc); > > > > struct drv_dnn_descriptor is defined in drivers/soc/visconti/uapi/dnn.h. > > I think this header should be placed anywhere else to be collected on "make > headers_install" action of kernel building. > > > > > > #### Usage sample (without error handlers) > > > > #include <linux/dma-heap.h> > > #include "drv_ipa.h" > > #include "drv_dnn.h" > > #include "drv_dnn_util.h" > > > > int allocate_buffer(int fd_heap, int size) > > { > > struct dma_heap_allocation_data heap_data_in={0}; > > int ret; > > > > heap_data_in.len = ROUNDUP_POW2(size); > > heap_data_in.fd_flags = O_RDWR | O_CLOEXEC; > > > > ret = ioctl(fd_heap, DMA_HEAP_IOCTL_ALLOC, &heap_data_in); > > if (ret <0) > > return -1; > > else > > return heap_data_in.fd; > > } > > > > void dnn_sample(int fd_dnn, int fd_conf, int fd_src, int fd_dst, int > fd_temp) > > { > > int32_t ret; > > struct drv_ipa_buffer_info bufinfo[4] = { > > > {.fd=fd_conf, .coherent=true, .direction=DRV_IPA_DIR_TO_DEVICE}, > > > {.fd=fd_src, .coherent=true, .direction=DRV_IPA_DIR_TO_DEVICE}, > > > {.fd=fd_dst, .coherent=true, .direction=DRV_IPA_DIR_FROM_DEVICE}, > > > {.fd=fd_temp, .coherent=true, .direction=DRV_IPA_DIR_FROM_DEVICE}, > > }; > > struct drv_ipa_addr conf_addr = {.buffer_index=0, .offset=0}; > > struct drv_ipa_addr src_addr = {.buffer_index=1, .offset=0}; > > struct drv_ipa_addr dst_addr = {.buffer_index=2, .offset=0}; > > struct drv_ipa_addr temp_addr = {.buffer_index=3, .offset=0}; > > struct drv_dnn_descriptor desc; > > > > struct drv_ipa_addr src_list[] = {src_addr}; > > struct drv_ipa_addr dst_list[] = {dst_addr}; > > > > uint8_t *config = (uint8_t*)mmap(NULL, DNN_CONF_BIN_SIZE, > > PROT_READ, MAP_SHARED, fd_conf, 0); > > > > drv_DNN_config_descript_init(&desc, bufinfo, 4); > > drv_DNN_config_exec_configuration(&desc, config, conf_addr, > src_list, dst_list, 1, temp_addr, TEMP_BUF_SIZE); > > drv_DNN_config_descript_finalize(&desc); > > > > ioctl(fd_dnn, IOC_IPA_START, &desc); > > > > { > > struct pollfd fds[] = > {.fd=fd_dnn, .events=POLL_IN, .revents=0}; > > poll(fds, 1, 1000); > > } > > } > > > > void sample() > > { > > int fd_dnn, fd_heap, fd_conf, fd_src, fd_dst, fd_temp; > > > > fd_dnn = open("/dev/dnn0", O_RDWR); > > fd_heap = open("/dev/dma_heap/linux,cma", O_RDWR); > > fd_conf = allocate_buffer(fd_heap, DNN_CONF_BIN_ALLOC_SIZE); > > fd_src = allocate_buffer(fd_heap, INPUT_IMG_ALLOC_SIZE); > > fd_dst = allocate_buffer(fd_heap, OUTPUT_IMG_ALLOC_SIZE); > > fd_temp = allocate_buffer(fd_heap, TEMP_BUF_ALLOC_SIZE); > > > > /* fill in input image and configuration here */ > > > > dnn_sample(fd_dnn, fd_conf, fd_src, fd_dst, fd_temp); > > > > ... > > }; > > > > > > #### Reference > > > > * [0] > https://toshiba.semicon-storage.com/content/dam/toshiba-ss-v2/master/en > /company/technical-review/pdf/technical-review-18_e.pdf > > * Fig 7.2.1 shows the whole architecture of prototype chip > > * Fig 7.2.2 shows the architecture of DNN accelerator > > > > > > Regards, > > Yuji > > > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: Hans Verkuil <hverkuil@xxxxxxxxx> > >> Sent: Friday, May 20, 2022 7:03 PM > >> To: ishikawa yuji(石川 悠司 ○RDC□AITC○EA開) > >> <yuji2.ishikawa@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>; robh+dt@xxxxxxxxxx; iwamatsu > >> nobuhiro(岩松 > >> 信洋 □SWC◯ACT) <nobuhiro1.iwamatsu@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>; > >> sumit.semwal@xxxxxxxxxx; christian.koenig@xxxxxxx > >> Cc: linux-arm-kernel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; > >> linux-kernel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; linux-media@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; > >> dri-devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; linaro-mm-sig@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > >> Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/4] Add Toshiba Visconti DNN image processing > >> accelerator driver > >> > >> Hi Yuji, > >> > >> On 5/20/22 11:48, yuji2.ishikawa@xxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote: > >>> Hi Hans, > >>> > >>> Thank you for your comment. > >>> I agree that this submission lacks documents sharing basic idea of > >>> the > >> accelerators; what do they accept and what do they yield. > >>> Where can I put a new document? Can I put it as a comment in a > >>> source? Can > >> I add a file under Documentation/misc-devices directory? > >> > >> Start with explaining it by replying to this mail. Without knowing > >> anything about the hardware, it is difficult to say what the best > >> place is. Usually it is either the public API header, or somewhere in > Documentation. > >> > >> The first step is to have a better understanding of the Visconti > >> image hardware and to see what the best subsystem would be to support > that hardware. > >> > >> Regards, > >> > >> Hans > >> > >>> > >>> Thanks, > >>> Yuji Ishikawa > >>> > >>>> -----Original Message----- > >>>> From: Hans Verkuil <hverkuil@xxxxxxxxx> > >>>> Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2022 8:15 PM > >>>> To: ishikawa yuji(石川 悠司 ○RDC□AITC○EA開) > >>>> <yuji2.ishikawa@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>; Rob Herring <robh+dt@xxxxxxxxxx>; > >>>> iwamatsu nobuhiro(岩松 信洋 □SWC◯ACT) > >>>> <nobuhiro1.iwamatsu@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>; Sumit Semwal > >>>> <sumit.semwal@xxxxxxxxxx>; Christian König > >> <christian.koenig@xxxxxxx> > >>>> Cc: linux-arm-kernel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; > >>>> linux-kernel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; linux-media@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; > >>>> dri-devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; linaro-mm-sig@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > >>>> Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/4] Add Toshiba Visconti DNN image processing > >>>> accelerator driver > >>>> > >>>> Hi Yuji, > >>>> > >>>> On 4/28/22 15:11, Yuji Ishikawa wrote: > >>>>> This series is the DNN image processing accelerator driver for > >>>>> Toshiba's ARM > >>>> SoC, Visconti[0]. > >>>>> This provides DT binding documentation, device driver, MAINTAINER > >> files. > >>>>> > >>>>> The second patch "soc: visconti: Add Toshiba Visconti image > >>>>> processing > >>>> accelerator common source" > >>>>> and the fourth patch "MAINTAINERS: ..." are the same as the ones > >>>>> in the > >>>> preceding post for affine driver. > >>>> > >>>> There appears to be no documentation whatsoever, unless I am > >>>> missing something. > >>>> > >>>> How is the uAPI supposed to be used? What does it do? What formats > >>>> does it accept or produce? > >>>> > >>>> If this processes images, then (as Laurent mentioned) this is more > >>>> suitable as a > >>>> V4L2 mem2mem driver. > >>>> > >>>> See > >>>> https://linuxtv.org/downloads/v4l-dvb-apis-new/userspace-api/v4l/de > >>>> v- > >>>> me > >>>> m2mem.html > >>>> and the many drivers in drivers/media that use it (git grep > >> v4l2-mem2mem.h). > >>>> > >>>> But without any explanation whatsoever I have no idea what does or > >>>> does not make sense. > >>>> > >>>> Regards, > >>>> > >>>> Hans > >>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> Best regards, > >>>>> Yuji > >>>>> > >>>>> [0]: > >>>>> > >>>> > >> > https://toshiba.semicon-storage.com/ap-en/semiconductor/product/image > >>>> - > >>>>> recognition-processors-visconti.html > >>>>> > >>>>> Yuji Ishikawa (4): > >>>>> dt-bindings: soc: visconti: Add Toshiba Visconti DNN image > processing > >>>>> accelerator bindings > >>>>> soc: visconti: Add Toshiba Visconti image processing accelerator > >>>>> common source > >>>>> soc: visconti: Add Toshiba Visconti DNN image processing > accelerator > >>>>> MAINTAINERS: Add entries for Toshiba Visconti DNN image > processing > >>>>> accelerator > >>>>> > >>>>> .../soc/visconti/toshiba,visconti-dnn.yaml | 54 ++ > >>>>> MAINTAINERS | 2 + > >>>>> drivers/soc/Kconfig | 1 + > >>>>> drivers/soc/Makefile | 1 + > >>>>> drivers/soc/visconti/Kconfig | 7 + > >>>>> drivers/soc/visconti/Makefile | 8 + > >>>>> drivers/soc/visconti/dnn/Makefile | 6 + > >>>>> drivers/soc/visconti/dnn/dnn.c | 533 > >>>> ++++++++++++++++++ > >>>>> drivers/soc/visconti/dnn/hwd_dnn.c | 183 ++++++ > >>>>> drivers/soc/visconti/dnn/hwd_dnn.h | 68 +++ > >>>>> drivers/soc/visconti/dnn/hwd_dnn_reg.h | 228 ++++++++ > >>>>> drivers/soc/visconti/ipa_common.c | 55 ++ > >>>>> drivers/soc/visconti/ipa_common.h | 18 + > >>>>> drivers/soc/visconti/uapi/dnn.h | 77 +++ > >>>>> drivers/soc/visconti/uapi/ipa.h | 88 +++ > >>>>> 15 files changed, 1329 insertions(+) create mode 100644 > >>>>> > Documentation/devicetree/bindings/soc/visconti/toshiba,visconti-dnn. > >>>>> ya ml create mode 100644 drivers/soc/visconti/Kconfig create > >>>>> mode > >>>>> 100644 drivers/soc/visconti/Makefile create mode 100644 > >>>>> drivers/soc/visconti/dnn/Makefile create mode 100644 > >>>>> drivers/soc/visconti/dnn/dnn.c create mode 100644 > >>>>> drivers/soc/visconti/dnn/hwd_dnn.c > >>>>> create mode 100644 drivers/soc/visconti/dnn/hwd_dnn.h > >>>>> create mode 100644 drivers/soc/visconti/dnn/hwd_dnn_reg.h > >>>>> create mode 100644 drivers/soc/visconti/ipa_common.c create > mode > >>>>> 100644 drivers/soc/visconti/ipa_common.h create mode 100644 > >>>>> drivers/soc/visconti/uapi/dnn.h create mode 100644 > >>>>> drivers/soc/visconti/uapi/ipa.h > >>>>>